[HPforGrownups] Re: Crouch Sr., Fudge

[S. G.]

No: HPFGUIDX 22431

I wrote:
> > I don't think he was *that* bad--he just underestimated the
>potential for  disaster in bringing his son home to appease his dying
>wife. And a dying  spouse is pretty powerful--I can't imagine denying
>the last wish of your  closest loved one.>

Jenny from Ravenclaw replied:
>It's interesting that you think that because I thought Crouch Sr. was
>awful.  I disliked right away him for not even making an effort to
>know Percy's name.  Percy was working his little tuchas off to impress
>him and Crouch was cold and distant.  Percy is also the son of someone
>Crouch has been working with for years.  Yuck for Crouch.
>I also thought it was inexcusable for him to use an Unforgivable Curse
>on his own son (or on anyone, for that matter).  Here Crouch is,
>claiming to be fighting Dark Wizards and being a champion of following
>rules, yet he goes home and keeps his son (who was supposed to be in
>jail) under the Imperius curse?  Nasty.  And allowing Aurors to kill
>supposed Dark Wizards upon arrest?  Deplorable.

Sorry I wasn't more clear. I was responding to the concept that Crouch was 
somehow in cahoots with the Dark side by freeing his son.

I think he was a total jerk, and would NOT want to work for him in a million 
years. The way he treated Percy and Winky was awful.
And the killing without trial is unacceptable.

His use of the Imperius curse is a little more sketchy for me--he wasn't 
using it to make his son do evil, but to keep him from doing evil--which 
makes it a little more of a gray area--and to keep him from having to die in 
Azkaban (which sounds like a horible prison).

I didn't see
>Crouch as granting the wish of his closest loved one, I saw him as
>doing something self-serving.  I'm not sure what - perhaps he was
>afraid his son would escape from Azkaban or perhaps he felt guilty for
>placing his son there to begin with.  Either way, Crouch Jr hated his
>father, and people generally don't hate their parents for no reason.

I think you're right. In fact, looking at it from the point of being 
self-serving, he saved his son from Azkaban perhaps not to grant his wife's 
wish, but to make himself look good in her eyes before she died?
Or out of guilt?

I hope more comes out about Crouch Jr and the whole relationship--it would 
be interesting to know if he turned to Voldemort out of rebellion against a 
controlling father, or if there is even more to the story.

But still, to set the record straight, IMHO, Crouch Sr is definitely a jerk.

Sarah




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