[HPforGrownups] Teachers in the Night, Spiders, 2xSnape,
lisa palmer
redmond_lisa at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 24 16:55:29 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 22919
I didn't think Snape left Voldemort way before Voldemorts downfall, it sounded to me like Snape was acting as a spi for Dumbledore, so never truly left.
V. said " I believe, because he may suspect Snape left. It seems that something happened before his downfall that caused Snape to re-evaluate his alliance. This may have been an internal conflict, or Snape might have voiced an opinion or somehow betrayed his feelings. Some people on FanForum have put forth the idea that Snape had a history with Lily, if you ship Snape/Lily you might theorize that Voldemorts murder of Lily would have made V. "beleive" Snape had left him forever. This reminds me of a good question my sister asked which may have been discussed here before (I haven't got use to this group, and don't know how to search). Her question was something like, why did voldemort ask Lily to step aside, when he seems to have no problem with murdering wizards and muggles during his reign of terror? Why the hesitation?
In answer to Snape and the wand question, remember he used his wand also at the dueling club with Lockhart, and seemed very proficient. And again at the end of PoA, when he finds the gang with Sirius. This is just what I can remember off the top of my head.
pigwidgeon37 at yahoo.it wrote: Hi, everybody,
how come that holidays are always too short (except for Harry, of
course)? I'm back, have caught up with all the mail and, as I
obviously had all 4 books with me and re-read them, there are some
more or less new points I'd like to discuss:
1)Where do Hogwarts teachers sleep? (And please don't answer me that
Snape sleeps hanging feet up head down in a dungeon!) I've found lots
of offices mentioned, where teachers have tea, keep their stuff etc.,
but obviously they don't sleep in there. So where???
2)Ron's story about his fear of spiders: When he was 3 years old,
Gred or Forge turned his Teddy bear into a spider. That is a tricky
bit of transfiguration, how could it be done by a 5 year-old? So
either the story is completely made up by Ron, because he's ashamed
of admitting that he's simply afraid of spiders without any
particular reason, or somebody else turned the teddy into a spider,
or there is more to the twins than we actually think.
3)Why is Snape always there when Dumbledore&McGonagall show up?
(Troll scene in PS/SS, ruining of the Fat Lady in PoA, when Harry's
name comes out of the Goblet, just to quote some of them)
He's always there, even if no student of his own house is involved.
Given that we know of only one deputy Headmaster, which is of course
McGonagall, what's so special about Snape that his presence in cases
of crisis is indispensable? Is he as skilled with the wand as he is
with the cauldron? Canon gives no such hint, on the contrary, the
inly time Snape uses a wand (please correct me if I'm wrong) is to
blast apart rose bushes during the Yule Ball.
Second Snape- problem: Are we really sure that JKR isn't deliberately
misleading us, making us believe that the DE who has left V. forever
is Snape and the one too coward to return is Karkaroff? Snape has
turned his back on Voldemort well before V.'s downfall so why would
V. say "one I *believe* has left me forever"? It's absolutely clear
he has left. Couldn't this statement point in a different direction,
namely that the coward is Karkaroff, but the one who has left is
somebody we either don't know or don't yet know as a DE? And Snape
would simply not be mentioned?
Susanna (*very* curious to read your opinions!)
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