Old Dark Magic

[catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk]

No: HPFGUIDX 23253

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., dfrankiswork at n... wrote:
> In GOF Voldemort says that his rebirthing is a piece of old Dark 
Magic.  But Voldemort is the only known case of a person disembodied 
by a failed Avada Kedavra spell.
> 
> So what would this magic have been used for in the past?  
Reincorporating ghosts?
> 
> I feel this question has bearing on theories about Barty Crouch 
Sr's bones being used to 'revive' Jr.
> 
> David
> 

I am going to come out here again as a true LOON, and mention 
something which has bothered me for a while.  Everyone talks about 
Crouch's bones, due to the fact he was transfigured into one.  This 
is my point - we do not have "his" bones - he was transfigured 
into "a" bone - subtle difference, I know, but I think it could be 
important to this issue.  

Another thing which bothers me about this is that it is the wrong way 
around.  Voldemort was always alive - he had his soul, but not his 
body.  Crouch has his body, but not his soul.  This 
spell/potion/whatever, can provide the soul with its body again, not 
the other way round.  Barty Crouch's soul is lost, therefore I do not 
see how this could possibly work.

Finally, even supposing the above was possible, there are two other 
stumbling blocks.  Firstly, someone, such as Voldemort would have to 
care enough to want to revive Barty Crouch, as BCJ would be unable to 
do this for himself.  Secondly, although the bone could be 
transfigured back into BCS's body, and thereby access his bones, 
there is still the problem of flesh of the faithful servant.  Where 
is this going to come from - it seems to me that coercion would not 
necessarily work here, supposing someone could be found to do this.  
Is it being suggested that Winky, who probably still retains some 
feelings of loyalty to the Crouch family, if not to BCJ himself, 
might be tempted/forced into doing so.  I doubt it somehow.

All this leads me to believe that this theory is a bit of a 
nonsense.  Sorry Mecki - I know you were one of the first (if not the 
first, I can't remember) to put this forward, but I don't think it's 
very plausible. Feel free to rip everything I've said to shreds!

Catherine