[HPforGrownups] Blood Relatives?

[Amanda Lewanski]

No: HPFGUIDX 23274

lamppost42 at hotmail.com wrote:

> Gad, I love these darker discussions! I'm reminded of a friend who
> predicted that Hermione would die and Ron and Harry would turn to one
> another for comfort... Oy!

Oy indeed. Shipper lunacy (ducks and runs).

> I had never considered that the Harry/Voldemort blood link might have
> such an effect, and I like the idea very much. I don't think, however,
> that Harry or Voldemort will die at the end of the series. Even though
> most of what Hagrid says should be taken with a very large grain of
> salt, his comment in PS about Voldemort not having enough human left
> in him to kill is a telling one.

But he has human in him now. Our New, Improved, Reconstituted Voldemort
was made of 100% human spell ingredients--bone, a hand, blood. I think
it likely that this very spell has made him vulnerable, even as it
provided him a body again.

> Voldemort survived a rebounded killing curse once, and was not only
> able to contact his followers, he was able
> to recruit a new one (Quirrel). Not bad for a "dead" guy, eh?  The
> point is that Voldemort may not be killable.

Might not have been, then. Had done esoteric things to himself. Is now
in a new body that used human components. Old properties might not
apply.

> Call me a wide-eyed optimist, but I doubt that Voldemort and Harry
> will die at the end of book 7.

You're a wide-eyed optimist.

> I don't think that JKR's insistence on ending the series at the end of
> Harry's school days indicates anything other
> than that he'll be graduating on time. I think Dumbledore (getting
> "older" with every book, "the only wizard You-Know-Who ever
> feared")...) is a lot more likely a candidate for killing off than
> Harry.

I think Voldemort, at least, will ultimately die. He is not the essence
of evil that Sauron was, with the associated message that the struggle
with evil is never-ending (i.e., you never really kill it). Voldemort is
a manifestation of evil, not evil itself, and I think as such he can be
killed without damaging the "message" or anything. [Side note: did any
other readers of the Fionavar Tapestry LOVE that Rakoth Maugrim was
toast? Didn't survive as a fleeing shadow of himself, but DIED? And I've
noted parallels---Rakoth was bound into the tapestry of life, and could
be killed, because he had sired a son......Voldemort has been bound back
into humanity by the spell used to reanimate him.]

> Sorry for the ramble, I'm just fascinated with the idea!

None of us *ever* ramble. Shame on you.

--Amanda, ditherer par excellence


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