ADMIN: Discussions vs. Inflammations

[rja.carnegie at excite.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 20055

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Joe Earles" <jearles at b...> wrote:
> From: John Walton <john at w...>
> > Haggridd said:
> >
> > > Penny, I know that you have a thankless and an almost impossible
> > > task, but I think that you did not act impartially in this matter.
> > > JKR did not write a slash fic, and anyone who sees such in the books
> > > is indulging in wishful thinking, at best. Why is Joe's response any
> > > more inflammatory than the twisting of the HP canon into something it
> > > was never intended to be?
> >
> > As a Moderator, I must jump in here in defence of Penny's decision (which
> > all we Moderators agree with and support completely).
> >
> > Haggridd, in answer to your question, Joe's response is inflammatory
> > because, without ANY reference to the HP books,
> 
> How can you people be so hoplessly obtuse?
> 
> I referenced the books four times in that post. It was totally on-topic
> given the subject of the thread.  Argue it all you want, you'll still be as
> incorrect as the day is long.

I should leave this to the moderators, but heck - it isn't
in the HPforGrownups rules, it's in the Yahoo.com rules -
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ , "You agree to not use
the Service to email...any Content that is unlawful, harmful,
threatening, abusive, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar,
obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or
racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable."

(Admittedly, the same rules also proscribe impersonation,
which will be bad news to Hermione.Granger and others.)

I think we're on "abusive" and "otherwise objectionable" here.

You've read the books.  You _know_ there isn't any homosexuality
in the books.  You knew that when you posted.  What got you going
was that you'd been suckered (as I was) into believing that
characters in the books had had homosexual experiences _in the
author's mind_, but in a way that you, a responsible adult, had
been unable to detect from the text.

If HP books are actually crypto-homosexual texts, how you feel
about that, and about homosexuality, may be relevant here.
But since we've established that there's no reason to suppose
that JKR has this conscious or unconscious agenda - if you don't
find any evidence in the books - then it's right off the point.

Accordingly, I won't give my own view.

On the other hand, Stephen Fry is a great flaming ponce, and
what I found when I searched the Web for Jim Dale -  :-)

Robert Carnegie
Meretricious!  (for which I must thank Mr. Fry)