Snape as vampire

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--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Amber <reanna20 at y...> wrote:
> 
> Perhaps I'm being completely obtuse, but why would Snape be 
malicious
> about Lupin's werewolf heritage if Snape himself is a vampire? I can
> understand Snape hating Lupin because he was friends with 
James/Sirius
> and because of the "trick" but if he was a vampire, you would think
> he'd have enough empathy to not twit Lupin about being a werewolf. 
> 
> Or maybe not. This *is* Snape we're talking about. <ducks books 
thrown
> by SnapeFans> But if *I* was a creature of the night, I'd be careful
> about being prejudiced against another person just because they 
were a
> creature of the night as well.

Prejudice!  That is a big part of it.  From a JKR interview with BBC 
Newsround:

"From the beginning of Philosopher's Stone, prejudice is a very 
strong theme.  It is plausible that harry enters the world wide-eyed: 
everything will be wonderful and it's the sort of place where 
injustices don't happen.  Then he finds out that it does happen and 
it's a shock to him."

There is prejudice in the wizard world.  In FB we see that they can't 
even determine which creature is a "being" and which is a "beast".  
xiii...The centaurs objected to some of the creatures with whom they 
were asked to share "being" status with, such as hags and vampires, 
and declared that they would manage their own affairs separately from 
wizards.

There is a lot of prejudice in this world.  Some are so busy calling 
others prejudice that they can't see or don't care that they 
themselves are full of prejudice.  Not hard to believe at all. 
Especially when it comes to Snape :)

All these groups are going to have to come together if they are to 
defeat Voldemort and I think that is just what Dumbledore is trying 
to do.  

  
>If Snape were hiding his heritage (and
> if he weren't, we'd have known about it in Book 1), it doesn't make
> sense to assign the essay on werewolves to expose Lupin when Lupin
> could turn around and expose Snape. Rather daft in my opinion, and
> Snape does *not* strike me as daft.

foxmoth wrote:

>My sense is that Snape is much farther in the closet than Lupin...I 
think Snape believes nobody knows what he is (possible exceptions 
Dumbledore and Voldemort) so he didn't think Lupin could expose him 
when he assigned the werewolf essay.>>>>>

I think Dumbledore and Voldemort know.  It is a bit strange that 
after Quirrell's travels (where he met Voldy) he comes back to 
Hogwarts with a new book on vampires and smelling of garlic.  Why in 
the world would he have garlic on him?  How many vampires are going 
to be able to enter the Hogwarts grounds?  Go back to the scene in 
the forest between Quirrell and Snape:  

'You don't want me as your enemy, Quirrell, 'said Snape, taking a 
step towards him.'
'I-I don-t know what you-'
'You know perfectly well what I mean.'

What does Quirrell know?  

I also believe that Lupin and his gang guessed a long time ago. Why 
would Lupin give the vampire essay if he didn't know?  Would he have 
only just recently guessed?

foxmoth wrote:

>>>>And once Lupin was exposed as a werewolf, Snape didn't need to be 
afraid of what Lupin might say about him, because as Dumbledore says, 
most wizards are so mistrustful of werewolves that their word counts 
for very little.  Added to that, the fact that Lupin and Snape are 
old enemies....well.>>>

Snape might not have thought that Lupin would expose him.  Like you 
said, who would believe him.  Plus, even though Lupin did give the 
essay, he never directly told anyone about Snape.  Not that we know 
of. Plus Snape is cunning and I think he felt he could take care of 
the situation if Lupin accused him of being a vampire.  And he 
did.....

foxmoth wrote:

>>>An ardent Snape fan, who is quite willing to believe that Snape 
would call the kettle black>>>>>>

Absolutely he would! This ardent Snape fan admits he is like that!

>>>There's a clincher for the clincher:  GoF ch. 14, where "Moody" 
tell his class he's had a letter from Professor Lupin about what they 
covered last year: "boggarts, Red Caps, hinkypunks, grindylows, 
Kappas and werewolves."  Vampires are omitted, very significantly in 
my view.  Were they an unplanned addition to Lupin's lesson plan?>>>


When Snape took over the class, they were studying what I consider to 
be *lesser* creatures.  I would imagine when the class got to 
werewolves and vampires they were finally getting to the *big* guys.  
After all, werewolves were at the very back of the book.  Was the 
class moving at such a fast pace that they finally made it to 
vampires? They might have studied vampires to a lesser degree 
previously, however I would think it would take many lessons on how 
to deal with vampires.  Plus I don't believe Lupin included any 
vampire stuff in that test he gave the class.  It was *tit for tat*.

Koinonia