Snape as vampire/Hermione/task

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--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Lyda Clunas" <lydaclunas at x> wrote:
> 
> About that Vampire essay... alright, I'm pretty sure the general 
> theory that you Vampire-Snapefans have is that when Lupin rescues 
> Harry from Snape's evil clutches after the Hogsmeade incident Lupin 
> said his little line about the "Vampire essay" simply to get back 
at 
> Snape for the little werewolf essay stunt. That they weren't 
> necessarily studying it in class (at least, not in much depth) and 
it 
> was just a kind of reserved warning or something of Lupin's.
> 
> However... forget not that it couldn't have been just a simple 
> warning of Lupin's, as Neville makes it obviously clear that the 
> assigned essay was real. Page 276, PoA, American version: 
> 
> "Er-- not now-- I was going to the library and do that vampire 
essay 
> for Lupin--"
> 
> "I'll come with you!" Neville said brightly. "I haven't done it 
> either!"
> 
> So, the essay *was* really assigned.

Yes, the essay was assigned.  I mentioned Neville and Harry 
discussing the vampire issue when *Snape* shows up.  Just happens 
that they were discussing vampires and all that garlic stuff!  It 
just seems Lupin might have introduced vampires ealier than he had 
planned.  


 Which brings me to my next 
> conclusion: If Hermione, who puts an insane amount effort into her 
> homework, can figure out the truth about Lupin's lycanthropy from 
> doing Snape's essay, then wouldn't she also be able to understand 
the 
> truth about Snape's "Vampirism" from Lupin's essay?

She probably has figured it out.  I will comment on Hermione further 
down.

> 
> Now, I know you guys will contadict me with the usual excuses 
("It's 
> a potion he uses to conceal his symptoms!" and so on...) BUT, Lupin 
> has a potion too, and it does not conceal all of his symptoms. I 
have 
> my doubts that there is a cure-all potion for the symptoms of 
> Vampirism (that greasy hair is not a side-effect, sorry)

Why can't the greasy hair, the crooked yellow teeth and the sallow 
skin be a side effect?  Snape is not a werewolf so he isn't going to 
turn into a little wolfie and crawl up on a couch. The potion would 
affect him in a different way.  We have talked about this extensively 
on snapefans but I will bring it up again.  No one ever says Snape is 
smelly or dirty.  Ron nor Harry ever mentions that Snape has bad 
hygiene.  Let's face it, if he did we would have been told about it 
by now.  Don't give me any of this *natual oily hair* stuff 
either ;)  Even oily hair looks clean every now and then and Snape's 
hair is *always* greasy.  So it's either because of a potion or he 
purposely slicks it.  I could see where he might put a little grease 
in it for appearance sake!  

 and 
> therefore, it would seem to me that Hermione would be able to 
> discover that Snape is not what he seems.
> 
> Now, of course, Hermione could be protecting Snape's secret, like 
she 
> did with Lupin, but even this I have my doubts upon. I think that 
> Hermione, although she has that great reverence for teachers, would 
> tell Harry and Ron the truth about Snape. Perhaps not right away, 
but 
> I would think she definitely would in GoF when they are musing over 
> what Snape did with his "first chance"...


Hermione trusts Dumbledore and McGonagall.  I am sure she figures 
they know (at least Dumbledore) and therefore if Dumbledore isn't 
telling neither is she.  Hermione seems to be a great judge of 
character, subtracting Lockhart, of course.  But when a young girl 
gets a crush on someone their actions can sometimes be excused.  (I'm 
sure my mother thought I was crazy when I couldn't get enough of 
Bobby Sherman) Hermione didn't tell about Lupin or the time-turner.  
She only told about the Firebolt because she was concerned about 
Harry's safety.  She's not saying anything yet because she doesn't 
feel the need.  We are also assuming that the know-it-all knows.  
Maybe she doesn't! I'm going to give Hermione some credit here and 
say she does know but is keeping it quiet as she should.

> 
> Snape is already quite the complex character. He has a bitter 
current 
> life, he doesn't appear to venture out anywhere, he was once a spy 
> and he may have resumed his double life, he has a dark past of 
> alliance with Voldemort, he's got a longstanding hatred of Harry's 
> father... why does JKR need to add vampirism to the pot? I mean, 
> really, how much can the poor guy deal with? I think he's got 
enough 
> characterization to build on as is.

What do we know about Snape?  Most of us seem to think Snape is 
bitter because of his past.  We are willing to marry him off, give 
him a child, think his wife and child are dead, or think his wife is 
still alive and a Death Eater, but wouldn't any of that give him too 
much baggage?  We want to know why he joined the Death Eaters in the 
first place and we give many reasons.  Wouldn't some of those reasons 
give him too much baggage?  Just maybe it is the vampirism that links 
all of these things together.  


dfrankis wrote:

<<Finally, his task at the end of GoF would be to get vampires on 
side with Dumbledore.  This could be scary if joining the wizards is 
seen as a betrayal by the 'vampiring community' at large.>>

foxmoth wrote:

<<Does he have to contact the vampires before Voldemort does?  Or is 
he going straight to Voldemort himself.>>


GoF ch 33:  The dementors will join us...they are our natural 
allies...we will recall the banished giants...I shall have all my 
devoted servants returned to me, *and* an army of creaturees whom all 
fear..."

Who wouldn't fear the vampires?  Could this be who Voldemort is 
referring to?  We know he has been in the forest with them. Is it so 
far fetched that Voldemort will have vampires on his side?

So did Snape go to the vampire community and have a little chat with 
them?  I think it's possible but then I also believe he could have 
just as well gone back to Voldemort that night.  I'm still sitting on 
the fence.

As dfrankis says, the vampires might look upon Snape as betraying 
them.  I would be afraid to go back there also!  You don't want to 
get on the bad side of a vampire even if you are one (or part one).

Koinonia