Directly from the manufacturers (was PoA Chapter 14 Summary)
*Lilith Morgana*
lilith_snape at hotmail.com
Mon Jun 11 17:45:01 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 20559
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Rosmerta" <tmayor at m...> wrote:
> First off, before I get into my extremely-nitpicky-but-to-me-hugely-
> troublesome question below, I have to get on my soapbox for a
minute
> and say that I think "Snape's Grudge" is the single best-written
> chapter in Harry Potter so far (this makes up for my recent bash of
> JKR on the FAT issue).
This is an enormously well-written chapter indeed! I love it.
> If Snape *does* know who MWPP are 1) why call Lupin? The second
Snape
> sees their names appear under the very specific insults directed
his
> way, it would be obvious (if he knew who they were) that the
> parchment (he doesn't yet know it's a map) is some artifact left
over
> from their time at Hogwarts. Why call Remus?
Because he doesn't know. And even if he suspects in the way that only
Snape can, he wouldn't be completely sure about it. I reckon he
remember and recognise the insults very well from his childhood, he
got his mind set on something but calls for Remus anyhow, to question
him.
>
> 2)
> So Snape is either asking Lupin, "Did Harry somehow get this map
from
> his dead father?" or "Did you, a person I already suspect as aiding
> and abetting Sirius Black, give this map to Harry?" The former is
> nearly impossible, given Harry's complete ignorance of his father
pre-
> Hogwarts and his 11-year imprisonment at the Dursley's, which Snape
> presumably knows about. So, by process of elimination, is Snape
> really asking Lupin, "did you give this to Harry?"
I believe he is asking that. Beacuse Snape, at this point, wants to
get every suspicion he ever had about Remus to be true and get him
fired. Besides, if we are focusing on the nicer version of Severus
Snape, he would be concerned about Sirius Black and the fact that he
has something to do with it. Call me soft, but I think Snape is doing
his job, which is to protect Harry from Black, and he believe that
Remus Lupin still has something to do with Sirius and therefore also
is dangerous to trust.
>
> But if that is what Snape's asking--if he knows who MWPP are in
other
> words--it seems completely out of character (and also irresponsible
> as a teacher and official Hogwarts gadfly) that Snape would let the
> momentary noise of Ron bursting in and the extremely mild
blustering
> of Lupin distract him enough to let them all leave his office scott-
> free and with the map in tow.
I know. But he might have felt that the discussion could countinue
more privatly. We still don't know anything about the teacher's POV
in this story and it freaks me out at times like this. Who gives a
knut about Harry? *grins evily*
Or, believing in the vamp-Snape, (oh, doesn't that sounds *gasp*
intriguing?), Remus might have said something (which of course would
be the vampire essay) that ended all conversation for the moment
being. Sorry, but it's the most likely thing if we're not going to
assume too much out of the canon...
>
> If you remove that one sentence ("directly from the manufactuers")
> from the chapter, everything else Snape says and does before and
> after (even the shrieking shack scenes later on) seems to indicate
> that he of course knows who James etc. were but *doesn't* know them
> by their nicknames, Moony Wormtail Padfoot and Prongs. In which
case,
> what the heck *did* Snape mean with his "manufacturers" line?
Would also like to know that...
> ~Rosmerta
> who's been waiting for this chapter to come up so she could ask
this
> question--can you tell?
Lilith
who's also been waiting but still haven't got much to say,
unfortunately!
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