Cho -- Geography/Wales -- Various SHIPPing questions

[Penny Linsenmayer]

No: HPFGUIDX 20806

Hi everyone --

I could have used a ship, any ship (or an inner tube) last Friday night!  
For those who didn't hear on OT-Chatter, my home flooded in Storm Allison 
that hit Houston last weekend.  I'm living at my in-laws home for at least 
another 2-3 weeks it seems as the damage to our home was worse than we first 
thought (not to mention that everyone in the greater Houston area needs a 
contractor .. flooring ... building materials ... dehumidifiers, all of 
which are in short supply).

I've been saving up my comments for a few days, and since baby is peacefully 
asleep at the moment ...

Amy Z said:

<<<Does anyone really think she would have said no if he'd asked her before 
Cedric did?  The poor idiot put it off too long.  Of course, she could have 
asked him.>>>

:::raises hand:::  Yes, I think she might have, but then, that's because I 
have a feeling that Cedric and Cho had been taken with another (if not 
dating) prior to the Yule Ball.  I think Harry just hadn't noticed.  :--)

GEOGRAPHY: Susan Hall wrote a funny post about how long it would take baby 
Harry to fall asleep and concluded by saying that it appears Godric's Hollow 
might be in south or southwestern Wales.  Despite Lexicon Steve's arguments 
to the contrary, I remain convinced that Godric's Hollow is in Wales.  I 
know  I know.  There are too many unknown variables to say for sure.  BUT, 
I still think it's in Wales. :--)

SHIPPING STUFF:

Melanie wrote an interesting spin on FITD: that Ron might mistakenly 
perceive there to be a romantic relationship between Harry and Hermione and 
act out of jealousy.  I've argued that before.  In fact, that's one of the 
most likely scenarios IMHO.  Of course, my take on it is that Hermione 
*does* have feelings for Harry, so Ron won't be too off-base.  <g>

Jenny wrote:

<<<Back to Hermione and Harry.  I completely understand the H/H shipper 
debate (really, Penny, I do!), but I prefer them to be platonic. Harry needs 
Hermione's friendship more than he needs her kisses.  I think I am also 
being biased because I have never developed feelings for anyone who was 
already a close friend, so I have trouble
understanding that (my least favorite scene in "When Harry Met Sally"
was when they slept together, and I still don't like that they
married).>>>

Gasp!!  When Harry met Sally is my favorite romantic comedy, and I think 
that the scene where they slept together was the *best* scene in the whole 
movie (well .. the deli scene for pure humor but ...).  I really am 
convinced that one's shipping preferences are largely driven by how one 
views relationships.  I have never in my entire life dated or had a crush on 
anyone who *wasn't* a friend first & foremost (well other than an occasional 
casual date that never led anywhere).  I also strongly believe that 
friendship is the foundation for a solid marriage.  My husband is my best 
friend.  So ... that does no doubt influence my perceptions of shipping.   
Ron & Hermione are friends too, but their bickering (the tensions as you 
say) is really off-putting to me.  I can't fathom a relationship like that.

<<<I suppose I also simply do not, at this point, see any
tensions between Harry and Hermione the way I see tensions between Ron
and Hermione.  I'd like to see their relationship (friendship or
otherwise) be developed a bit more, though, because I am still not
sure why they appear to be attracted to each other (Ron doesn't seem
like my type at all).>>>

I take it from your last comment that you identify with Hermione?  So many 
of us do.  Maybe we're projecting which boy we'd choose?  :--)  Again, I 
fail to see why "tensions" in a relationship are necessary; in fact, I don't 
see them as a good thing at all.  Maybe it's just me. :::shrugs:::

Rebecca wrote:

<<<<snip great post about why Harry may avoid romantic entanglements> So 
although I think Harry/Ginny would be nice, and I could even live with 
Harry/Hermione (although I think that's far too predictable and therefore 
not very interesting), I really doubt we're going to see anything serious 
develop for Harry along romantic lines.>>>

I strongly agree with your points in the Harry No-Ship post.  I think he may 
well avoid romantic entanglements.  I'll go a step further and say that I 
can see him pushing his friends away too.  But, I agree with Pippin that it 
wouldn't make sense for JKR to have let us know that Harry has healthy 
adolescent romantic feelings and then never expand on that.  So, I think we 
will know that he's making a sacrifice, that he's consciously pushing away 
girls he might like to date.  But, I think he will sacrifice this aspect of 
his adolescence.
H/H is predictable?  I think R/H and H/G is far more boring.  H/H "raises 
the stakes" as Ebony says.  <g>

Rebecca again:

<<<Right.  I'm not at all opposed to H/G, but only if Ginny gets more 
character development and I can see that it would actually make sense. I'm 
not in favor of Harry being handed off to Ginny just because she's always 
had a crush on him.  I mean, *most* teenaged crushes end up being completely 
fruitless -- or at least all of mine did.>>>

Mine too.  Maybe that's partially why I'm against H/G.  I don't think she 
should just get Harry because of her crush.  She needs to be a much more 
fleshed-out character to deserve the hero IMO.  Right now, I just don't see 
that we know enough about Ginny (and we haven't seen enough H/G interaction 
to know whether Harry *or* Ginny would even like each other).  I'm still not 
convinced that she isn't still hero-worshipping.

Okay, I'm caught up more or less, and baby is stirring.  :--)

Penny

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