[HPforGrownups] DISCUSSION - PoA Ch 15: The Quidditch Final

Ebony Elizabeth Thomas ebonyink at hotmail.com
Tue Jun 19 13:16:39 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 21151

:::dances::: I get to go first... first... first...

>Questions and discussion points:
>1) Hermione hugs Ron. Love interest or a friend apologising? (Especially
>relevant as we seem to be having a shipper conference at the moment  I
>think calling it a war would be going too far)

Foreshadowing of a future passionate love affair, of course.  
</sarcasm>(Thinking that if JKR ever read a summary of the HP4GU archives, 
she wouldn't faint from shock (she doesn't seem like that type), she'd most 
likely die laughing.)

>2) Hermione stands up to Malfoy over his comments about Hagrid. A
>foreshadowing of the SPEW events in GoF? An indicator of why she is in
>Gryffindor and not Ravenclaw?

Yes.  Hermione's social activism is one of her key characteristics.  It'd be 
very interesting to see if there are the equivalent of British political 
parties affiliated with the MoM--Hermione's the classic bleeding-heart 
liberal, I think.

>3) Has Hermione got the right idea about Divination? Or is it actually
>useful for something? If so what and who will be the one to show its uses?

Well, we had that great fate vs. free will discussion a month or so ago 
(waves at Amy Z).  Personally, I don't think that the Divination courses are 
just there for laughs...

>4) Harry has a dream about being chased by a dragon. In GoF Harry flies a 
>broom around a dragon. This means he is a Seer. Discuss.

If Harry is a Seer, you'll have mass book burnings by fans who think Harry 
Gets Enough Attention And Has Enough Talent As It Is.  Even I had a fleeting 
second like this ("WHY is this kid a Champion?") upon first reading of GoF, 
but now I think that the Bad Guys are so intent on killing him that he needs 
all the help he can get.  If he wants to survive canon, his bag of tricks 
had better be full, I'm thinking.

>5) Ron predicts that he will get an owl since Scabbers is no longer around. 
>  This means he is a Seer. Discuss.

We've had some interesting discussions in the past re:  Ron's prescience.  
Many people like the idea of Ron Being a Seer, for obvious 
balancing-the-Trio reasons... count me among the Committee for the Granting 
of Special Psychic Powers to the Guy Sidekick.  I know I think that getting 
clairvoyance would be a much better "consolation prize" for him than just 
getting Hermione by default.  It would also serve several purposes:  a very 
obvious one is that Ron will be less likely to be tricked by the Dark Side 
if he sees them coming.  The more I think about this, the more I like it.

--Ebony

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