Lucius - Teachers - Snape - fanfic - Quidditch

[Rita Winston]

No: HPFGUIDX 21295

Susanna Pigwidgeon37 wrote:

> And he has to be one of Voldy's closest DEs, 
> otherwise how could we explain V. barely mentions
> that Lucius has not been searching for him more
> intensely? Could Lucius be Voldie's (illegitimate) son,

Yes, Lucius is Voldie's little pet (as in teacher's pet), and Voldie
lets him get away with a lot of crap. At first I thought it was a social
class snobbery thing: that the former Tom M. Riddle, raised in a
orphanage to be some kind of lower middle class, is so impressed by the
upper class aristocrat that it is a very big deal to him to be liked by
the aristocrat. Even tho' he is really much more powerful than the
aristocrat.

But then I came up with some other ideas which conflict with the social
class snobbery idea. One is that Tom Riddle, before he became a
snake-man, was Lucius's GODFATHER rather than FATHER. That he was friend
and ally of Malfoys before Lucius was born, and that his influence on
Lucius's upbringing had something to do with how VERY evil Lucius turned
out. 

Friend and ally of Malfoys -- the poor but ambitious aspiring Dark
Wizard who finished school at age 17 or 18 and has no home to go to (as
he was raised in an orphanage) could do a lot worse for himself than
being taken on as a protege - permanent houseguest - co-conspirator by
the Malfoys. I think the Malfoys have quite a library at Malfoy Manor,
as well as money and social influence.  The social influence part would
come in handy when it comes to providing young Tom with an alibi for the
murder of his father and paternal grandparents...

I think it was Lucius's father who was head of the Malfoy family and
member of the Hogwarts Board of Governors at that time and Lucius's
older brother who was Tom Riddle's classmate in Slytherin House. He
could have arrived in Malfoy Manor as the guest of the son of the house,
and used the opportunity to charm, seduce, make an alliance with the
more powerful father. Or the father, being on the Board of Governors,
could have noticed the boy who won the Award for Special Services, and
noticed his talent, ambition, and Darkness, all appealing to Malfoys... 

(I think Tom Riddle didn't recruit Death Eaters until he had turned into
an immortal Snake Man, and I think he didn't turn from a human into a
Snake Man until just before the beginning of his Reign of Terror --
which began about ten years before Harry was born, ie 1970, because of
Dumbledore's statement "we've had precious little to celebrate these
last eleven years.")

Amber wrote:

> Why didn't Lucius try and start his own plan for
> World Domination? Er, I don't know. I'll have to 
> think of why. But I do believe that Lucius is 
> after the same thing as Voldemort, power, power, 
> and more power.

Either Lucius habitually looks up to Voldemort/Riddle because that was
a  reasonable attitude when he was a baby and Riddle was an adult (see
above) OR Lucius knows he can't gain World Domination on his own (knows
he has to settle for Voldemort gaining WOrld Domination and Lucius being
either the 'power behind the throne' or the spoiled pet) because Riddle
has MUCH more magical power/talent than anyone around at the time except
Dumbledore.

Ebony wrote:

> Yet how do we know that McGonagall, Snape, Lupin,
> etc. aren't among the most powerful and talented
> witches and wizards of the world? 

Ebony, I love all the passionately devoted things you and Jenny said
about teaching. It never occurred to me to doubt that most of the
Hogwarts professors (not Lockhart) are the most powerful, talented,
intellectually brilliant, best educated witches and wizards of the
British Isles. Not because there exist fantastically talented people who
happen to be dedicated to teaching children, but rather because I think
of Hogwarts as filling the place of a university (because JKR keeps
saying there is no university for wizards). That is, the place where the
most brilliant and accomplished scholars are given professorships and
honor regardless whether they're any good at teaching.

Susanna Pigwidgeon37 wrote:

> Anyway, to me, Snape is one of the (alas, too 
> many) teachers who have chosen this professsion 
> not by vocation, but because of some other reason
> (in Snape's case, I think it's to be protected 
> from the revenge of Voldemort)., and who therefore
> feel bad about teaching, not admitting this to 
> themselves, but making their students pay for it by 
> bullying them and treating them unjustly.

I AGREE!!!

Meg Rose wrote:

> Hey guys - I was just thinking about writing
> a little Harry Potter fan fiction just for the 
> heck of it - I was wondering if maybe any of 
> you out there have any ideas for a plot line? 

You could write about any of the ideas that were speculated on this list
in the last two days: What is the relationship between Lucius and
Voldemort? Why are the other ghosts and the poltergeist scared of the
Bloody Baron? Do Bill and Charlie send money home to their parents? (I
have a feeling that Charlie is not well-paid: dragon wrangling could be
one of those dangerous, unpleasant, highly-skilled jobs that people do
for love rather than for money, like Muggle 'hot shot' fire fighters.)
What would the rest of the characters do if Molly Weasley were killed by
Death Eaters?

Dfrankis wrote:

> May I draw attention to the unusual scoring system
> for the Hogwarts Quidditch league (and perhaps other
> leagues)?  The winning team is the one with the 
> highest overall score, not the one with the most points
> on a 2 or 3 for a win, 1 for a draw, 0 for a lose basis.  
 
I put it in Installment Two of my Snape/Draco romance (posted to HPff
back in March): Draco said, "Well, I do care, and I *am* a good player,
and last year I won every match I played, 150 Slytherin to 140
Gryffindor, and that Potter still walked away with the Cup, on the
points his Chasers racked up against Hufflepuff, and thumbed his nose at
me." Draco didn't trouble to keep the pain out of his voice.

I'm in the midst of writing up that event in more detail. 
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