Has anyone read this book??

[Caius Marcius]

No: HPFGUIDX 21323

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., edjbroker at y... wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Meg Rose" <megrose_13 at y...> wrote:
> > I was reading this book I have recently purchased out of 
curiosity, 
> > titled "Harry Potter and the Bible".  

> > But it was explaining how Harry is constantly lying, cheating, 
> > stealing, and overall breaking rules and he never is punished and 
> how 
> > this is a bad influence on children

I can think of another major literary work in which major characters 
continually lie and break rules and seemingly profit from it

Genesis Chapter 20: Abraham lies about his relationship with his wife 
Sarah - saying that she is his sister, and implyies (in a blatant and 
rather sleazy effort to curry favor) to King of Gerar, Abilemelech, 
that he can "fix them up" - - and gets away with it!

Genesis Chapter 27: Jacob tricks his blind father Isaac into giving 
hin the blessing intended for older brother Esau - and once again 
gets away with it! (He certainly has his share of trials, but he 
becomes the patriarch, not the deserving Esau)

Genesis Chapter 34: Jacob's daughter Dinah is raped by Scechem, the 
son of King Hamor of the Hevites; her brothers devise a singularly 
gruesome and excruciating revenge for him and his entourage which for 
some reason is almost never mentioned in sermons and Sunday School 
lessons (although it has been in mine!)

Genesis Chapter 44 & 45: Joseph (often described as the "Ron Weasley 
of Scripture") is allowed to get away with lording it over his older 
brothers merely to satisfy his childish need for revenge

A lot more examples from the Hebrew Scriptures - but may a higher 
moral standard be discerned in the Gospels?  Well, it seems that one 
of the perennial complaints that the Pharisees lodged against Jesus 
is that the man felt he could just plain old ignore all the Rules.  
JC was clearly the kind of guy who would have snuck down to Hogsmeade 
without his guardian's signature (changing water into Butterbeer all 
the while)

Matthew Chapter 12

    1: At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the 
sabbath; his disciples were hungry, and they began to pluck heads of 
grain and to eat. 
2: But when the Pharisees saw it, they said to him, "Look, your 
disciples are doing what is not lawful to do on the sabbath." 
3: He said to them, "Have you not read what David did, when he was 
hungry, and those who were with him: 
4: how he entered the house of God and ate the bread of the Presence, 
which it was not lawful for him to eat nor for those who were with 
him, but only for the priests? 
5: Or have you not read in the law how on the sabbath the priests in 
the temple profane the sabbath, and are guiltless? 
6: I tell you, something greater than the temple is here. 
7: And if you had known what this means, `I desire mercy, and not 
sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the guiltless. 
8: For the Son of man is lord of the sabbath." 
9: And he went on from there, and entered their synagogue. 
10: And behold, there was a man with a withered hand. And they asked 
him, "Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath?" so that they might accuse 
him. 
11: He said to them, "What man of you, if he has one sheep and it 
falls into a pit on the sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it 
out? 
12: Of how much more value is a man than a sheep! So it is lawful to 
do good on the sabbath." 
13: Then he said to the man, "Stretch out your hand." And the man 
stretched it out, and it was restored, whole like the other. 
14: But the Pharisees went out and took counsel against him, how to 
destroy him. 


And there was that later unpleasantness around Golgotha due to 
certain failures to follow the established rules.

Of course as 
> early as 150 years ago, we burned mostly women because they were 
> witches! 

Whose "we"? Why were mostly women burned (why not entirely?) Can you 
document any 1851 witch burnings? Why did they stop in 1852? (AFAIK, 
in America, all we ever did was drown 'em) 


Ignore the bible thumpers...or pray 

IRONY (ka-BOOM!)

they get a real life!

No, what everyone needs to thump 'em even harder (i.e., actually read 
them, and that includes all you Sec Hums out there) - hey, even 
Nietzsche said that compared to the Bible, "everything else is merely 
literature."
 
   - CMC (Presbyterian Sunday School Teacher)