Ron's subconscious,heretical question about time lines,Molly's age

pigwidgeon37 at yahoo.it pigwidgeon37 at yahoo.it
Tue Jun 26 06:55:14 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 21453

Please don't send me howlers for what I'm going to say now- I know 
that many of us have become really enthusiastic about the Ron-the-
unconscious-seer theory.
IMHO, Ron is nothing less than a seer, he's just a person with a very 
good intuition. Let me explain: To me, Hermione and, to a lesser 
degree, Harry, are persons who do a lot of analyzing, logical 
thinking, they are brainy and use only their brains to work things 
out.
Ron, OTOH, is not this kind of person. You know where you can see 
that best? At the beginning of GoF, when Harry pictures his friends' 
reactions to his scar hurting angain. Ron is the more impulsive of 
the trio, the one who doesn't think before he reacts (think of how 
many times he has to be pulled back by his "logical" friends when he 
wants to get at Draco).
Therefore, IMHO, Ron being the more intuitive (hope that word's 
right, but you'll understand anyway) kind of person, the thing he 
says about Harry's "being stabbed in the back by someone whom he 
thought of as a friend", to me simply reveals that unconsciously, he 
is well aware of his jealousy and that he can't go on like this 
forever. In CoS, when somebody mentions for the first time that the 
monster killed somebody the last time it was set free, Ron says 
"Maybe it killed Moaning Myrtle, that would have done everybody a 
favour". He doesn't *know* and he doesn't *see*, things are just kind 
of "coming up".

Sorry to question authorities, but I just have to say something about 
time-lines (I already did so in an other msg): To me, it doesn't make 
much sense establishing *absolute* time-lines with exact dates. The 
maximum we can do is working out *relative* time-lines. The motive 
for my somewhat heretical question is that it was stated that "we 
know Dumbledore's age is about 150". How do we know? Maybe I've 
missed some detail, but the only *date* we know is the defeat of 
Grindelwald in 1945, the rest is all relative stuff: D's still having 
auburn hair and being transfiguration teacher 50 years before CoS 
(which should be 1942, according to NHN's Deathday party)etc.etc. 
We know that Lucius was at Hogwarts between TMR and the Marauders, we 
know that the Riddles were killed 50 years before GoF, and so on and 
so on.

Which brings me to Molly's age: Someone mentioned she had to be older 
than she seems to be, because when coming to Hogwarts for the 
Triwizard final, she remembers that at her time there was a 
gamekeeper called Ogg. This is only true if we suppose that Hagrid 
was made gamekeeper at the age of 13, immediately after being 
expelled. BUT: Who choses the gamekeeper? The Headmaster. And 
Dumbledore wasn't Headmaster at that time, we don't even know when he 
took over.I imagine that Hagrid was expelled and, considering what he 
was accused of, he wasn't allowed to enter the school grounds for 
quite a long time. Later, when dumbledore became Headmaster and Ogg 
retired, he called Hagrid. (Wouldn't somebody like to write some 
piece of fanfic about Hagrid's years as an outcast?) This takes about 
20 years off Molly's age.

OK, I'm waiting for the howlers!
Susanna  





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