Ron/Hermione from the viewpoint of a 14 yr. old

[Celeste Chang]

No: HPFGUIDX 13750

Though I'm fifteen, not fourteen, I have to agree with what Alicia has 
said- I myself was a girl who grew up associating more with males than 
with girls, and while a 'girly' girl of my age would shriek and act 
like a helpless little oh-my-god twit if some boy insulted her, I 
would most definitely make sure he regretted it. *censors further 
violent comments*

Hermione is a girl. Like me, she is learning to adopt girlish ways 
for big social events- the usage of the Hair Potion, the special 
attention to appearance- but also like me she is at heart more 'male' 
than a normal girl- more willing to strike out and blow the heads off 
of people who piss her off, more willing to throw a punch at some 
insolent boy rather than shriek. I don't think Hermione is the 
temptress kind, luring Ron on with "next time ask me before someone 
else does" statement- she is honestly attacking him right back for 
having been insensible to her.

And now that I've basically gone in circles and confused myself, I'm 
going to go into lurk mode.

- Celeste Chang


--- In HPforGrownups at y..., AliciaSpinnet at h... wrote:
> *delurks momentarily*
> 
> After viewing the whole ship/to crash the ship situation, I've been 
> struck to toss my not-so-random opinions on this subject onto the 
> dock.  Just for the record, I'm a fervent-- almost rabid-- 
> Harry/Hermione shipper, and hell nor high water will ever change 
> that.  Even if Harry/Draco does result in cute mental imagery.  
("You 
> know, Potter, the only reason I'm sleeping with you is because your 
> coloring compliments my skin tone, so don't flatter yourself.")  
> Ahem.  Anyway.  On with the post.
> 
> >About the Ron/Hermione brawl, as a 14 year old myself I think 
> >Hermione WAS egging Ron into asking her out.  
> 
> I wouldn't call it a "brawl", would you?  Brings to mind overfed 
> participants in the WWF, and I don't think Hermione nor Ron would 
> take very kindly to being compared to such lifeforms.  *eg*
> 
> Speaking as someone (not saying the age... if you don't know 
already, 
> guess *g*) who can say "been there, done that, lived to tell about 
> it, wrote the fanfic based on it, complained to the world about it" 
> on this situation, I must disagree.  Although that particular 
excerpt 
> from the book serves well to illustrate the reasoning behind Ron 
> having feelings for Hermione, it does absolutely nothing to further 
> the theory of Hermione liking Ron at all.  I believe that Hermione 
> acted as any member of the Sisterhood would in such a situation: 
when 
> faced with something she found to be degrading and irrational, she 
> vociferously attacked the offender.  In this case, the "degrading 
and 
> irrational" situation was that of Ron, someone who purports himself 
> to be a dear friend, taking her for granted in the cruelest way 
> possible.  He didn't ask her to the Ball in the first place; and for 
> some warped reason, he percieved this to be *her* fault, almost.  Or 
> at least, that is the way it came out.  He blatantly accused her of 
> something that wasn't her fault; as she stated, if he wished to go 
to 
> the Ball with her, he should have asked first.  Not Hermione's fault 
> in the least, and Ron was a jackalope for even daring to take his 
> frustration out on her.  
> 
> I also don't believe this reaction would have been limited solely to 
> Ron; if Harry, Dean, Seamus, or any other male had been in his place 
> and taken his actions, Hermione would have chided them in a similar 
> manner.  So, this in no way supports the idea that Hermione 
> was "egging" Ron into asking her out.  All it serves to show is that 
> she's a girl after my own heart-- one that doesn't take any guff!
> 
> 
> >A statement like "Next time there's a ball, ask me before someone 
> >else does, and not as a last resort!" from a teen is an act of 
> >frustration because of total crush-ness.  Most people my age 
> >certainly wouldn't say that to their best friend if it didn't mean 
> >something.  
> 
> I agree on the count of total frustration; however, I must disagree 
> on the count of "total crush-ness".  Once again, going back to my 
> earlier explanation: it was frustration at the *situation*, of Ron 
> being so pigheaded as to blame it solely on her.  
> 
> Although the age-group awkwardness must be taken into consideration, 
> remember that Harry and Ron *are* her best friends, and *are* male. 
 
> Hermione is most certainly *not* uncomfortable with the male 
species, 
> and there would be no reason for her to have any qualms about 
> blasting Ron's head off into oblivion for treating her in that 
> manner.  Although some girls, the ones who have acquaintances that 
> are primarily female, might say this out of some sort of romantic 
> interest, I highly doubt that Hermione would.  One of the reasons 
> that I identify so much with Hermione is that we're in similar 
> situations: the Brains of the class, with boys for best friends.  In 
> most scenes of the book, the actions she takes are the ones I would 
> take, also.  And I can see myself lambasting any one of my friends 
> for daring to accuse me of something that was their fault, not 
> because I have a romantic interest in them, but because they're 
> idiots.  There *is* room for interpretation, but overall, I'd have 
to 
> disagree.  Hermione isn't the type of girl to say that in a manner 
> indicative of feelings any more than those of a platonic nature.    
> 
> >IMHO Hermione *is* telling Ron, "You should have asked me first and 
> >if you don't next time I'll learn a new unforgivable curse to use 
on 
> >you!".  
> 
> I agree with this, in a different sense.  *g*  I'd like to take this 
> as, "If you wanted to go so badly with me, you should have asked 
> first; and if you dare to blame this all on me next time, you'll be 
> so sorry that you'll go groveling to Draco Malfoy for sympathy."
> 
> >And plus, why would Ron tear apart his little Krum "action figure" 
> (arm found under bed...forgot which chapter...) if he wasn't 
> >jealous?  Fraternizing with the "enemy" couldn't have been why
> > Ron was angry, because he got Krum's autograph in the end.
> 
> Unfortunately, I must acquiesce on the point of Ron having an 
> interest in Hermione.  I don't like it, but it's fact, just like the 
> fact that George W. Bush is now President.  I don't like either 
fact, 
> but I'm stuck with it.  (And I only have to wait four years on 
> both!)  But, this does nothing to say that Hermione will reciprocate 
> his feelings.  Hermione liked Professor Lockhart, that was 
definitely 
> obvious, but you didn't see him putting himself in a Mary Kay 
> Letourneau position just because she liked him, did you?  (If you 
> did, tell me; I think I missed that passage in that case.)  The 
point 
> is, just because someone feels something for someone doesn't 
> necessarily mean that the object of the lavished affections feels 
the 
> same, at all. 
> 
> >There are lots of other facts that point to a Ron/Hermione romance, 
> >and I think it's coming up in canon.
> 
> For the sake of saving my fast-sinking shipmates and I, could you 
> enlighten me?  Perhaps it comes about from my refusal to read 
> anything into R/H and adamance in dissecting the events that could 
be 
> interpreted as H/H, but I really don't see them as being very 
> obvious.  On the contrary, I see the current situation as standing: 
> Ron likes Hermione, Hermione likes Harry, Harry likes Cho/no one at 
> this moment.
> 
> Poor things.
> 
> Sinking back into lurkdom, 
> 
> Alicia/Sue Spinnet, Second-Mate on the SS H/H, Cptn. of the SS D/G