SHIP: Waving the White Flag

morine10 at aol.com morine10 at aol.com
Thu Mar 8 02:51:56 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 13853

<Mo is launched in the R/H dinghy, white hanky dangling from the end of her 
wand.>

Apparently as R/H First Mate, one of my duties was to recruit an official  
message bearer.  Since I slacked, it seems I must do this myself.  So please, 
hold your fire! <VBG>

Firoza:
> My statements are NOT meant to be taken issue of, they are
> as I have stressed my opinions only :-)
Penny:
Well .... if you state an opinion on an internet *discussion* list,
you're opening yourself up to having that opinion be subjected to
questioning.  That's the point.  It's a discussion group so that there
can be back & forth debate.  You don't just express opinions & then say,
"But, I don't want to hear any arguments, and I don't want to have to
defend my views."  If that's your hope, then you're better off being
silent on a discussion group, because the whole point is to engage in a
conversation with one another.

Mo:
While I don't think that my dear shipmate was attempting to quell the battle, 
I do think she was trying to prevent mass casualties.  I think she was trying 
to avoid ill-will and harsh feelings.  All in good fun!  Eh Firoza?


> Cassandra -
>Hooray for all 30 year olds who love HP as much as we do!
> Anyway, I am also a die hard R/H shipper, and cannot for the life 
of  me see into a H/H thing.  It just doesn't work.
> The kiss - ah, the kiss!  Made no impression on me.  I though 
Hermione  gave Harry a "I'm glad you're okay and will be worrying about you 
over  the summer and I'm quite maternal" sort of kiss.  Hermione can show 
affections to Harry that Ron cannot without being called a "swotty 
 little Nancy boy".  I wouldn't want Harry and Hermione to date anyway.  
Something about  that is stupid to me.  'Nuff said.
> --Jenny from Rav

***
*scratches head.* I am not thirty. Nor do I think there is anything 
to the H/H kiss. Never have I thought there was anything to it. All I 
said was that it is an action open  to interpretation. My 
interpretation is that it doesn't mean much.

Cassandra

Flag Bearing Mo:
Seems to be a little confusion on who-said-what.  I know I sometimes get 
dazed and confused. <g>  It's been especially hard since these back and forth 
posts have been oh-so-long!  I believe, Jenny, that you meant to quote 
Firoza. But *this* 30 year old thanks you for the Hooray!

Cassie wrote:
>Well, just now I went through the archives and gave up after finding 
>more than forty posts on exactly this topic. I am very unclear how 
>you managed to miss them, as there have been several after Christmas. 

AmyZ:
I haven't seen them either.  Maybe it's been gone over so many times 
that H/Hers assume that when they allude to this subtext, it's clear 
what they mean.  I'm open to seeing it (since joining HPforGU, I've 
looked for it as I've reread the books--and even found it here and 
there!) but since joining this list just before Christmas, I don't 
believe I've seen a simple list of phrases/incidents/etc. that support 
Hermione Likes Harry.
I know such a list is coming in the FAQ, and I don't want to throw 
gasoline on what seems to be a fire in a jam jar...I just want you to 
know that it's not only rabid R/Hers who plain old just don't get the 
H/H argument.

Flag Waving Mo:
Thanks AmyZ! I'm glad to know I'm not the only one and that it's not just the 
R/H-ers. :)  That said, perhaps we could be a little less harsh?  I know it 
gets tedious when you feel you're repeating yourself (I teach middle school, 
I AM a broken record! <g>) But I think that a gentle reminder is all that is 
necessary. I for one read EVERY shipping post but I still don't have a clear 
understanding of the H/H argument.  Perhaps I'm a bit thick or perhaps, as 
Amy stated, it isn't as clear as some think.  Who knows?  I know I'm eagerly 
awaiting the FAQ's.  :)

Ebony:
This is why we don't cluster and only talk to one another all the 
time in places where disparate PoVs are not encouraged.  It gets 
boring talking about how right we are and how much Harry and Hermione 
are meant to be with other like-minded souls.  Not to mention "time 
consuming."  

Now, now Ebony!  I don't think that's fair!  We may have our ship in common, 
but it's hardly an "I sooo agree with you- you're so right-kiss-kiss-Love 
Fest."  We enjoy discussing and arguing the books as much as anyone. :)  
Speaking for myself, I enjoy hearing and discussing other POV's.  That's why 
I belong to this list.  I also enjoy a plethora of fanfic, which includes 
several authors that subscribe to this list. :)  

Just because some of us get together to discuss canon, fanfic, etc. as OBHF <g
>  on the Good Ship R/H, it does NOT mean that we don't enjoy a good debate! 
Why just the other day Cap'n Kathy and I got into a rather heated row over 
what to do about the loo. (I still say that a nice tan tile will compliment 
the Weasley-red towels and accessories.  She has her heart set on dragon 
stencils Yuck!)  It took three petty officers and one house-elf to separate 
us!  And I won't even go into the the spats I've had over who thinks they can 
beat me at chess!  Ebony, do stop by and *tell* them that I am *that* good.  <
VBG>


-Mo
R/H First Mate and Champion Wizarding Chess Player :)
Still waving the white hanky!  Hold your fire until I get out of this damn 
dinghy, please!

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