When worlds collide
absinthe at mad.scientist.com
absinthe at mad.scientist.com
Thu Mar 15 16:56:27 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 14386
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> More thoughts inspired by the forewords:
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> The trouble with REALLY bringing together the two worlds, HP and
ours,
> is that ours has fictional books about HP in it. If our world is
> their world, then Dumbledore will soon start reading about this
> fiction phenomenon whose heroes are the people of his very real
world.
> Some fanfictions deal with this explicitly and explain how Muggle
JKR
> (or witch JKR) wrote the books pretending, or perhaps believing,
that
> they were fiction.
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> If Harry really gave permission to reprint his FB in 2001, no
> surprise; he is beyond embarrassment at this point. We already
know
> countless private thoughts of his from Rowling's books, and he
knows
> it because, for heaven's sake, half the kids at Dudley's school
read
> HP voraciously. They think it's fiction, but that's little comfort
to
> the boy whose secret crush is immortalized in the fastest-selling
book
> in history.
>
> An alternative is that the two worlds are exactly the same *except*
> that the Muggle world of the books doesn't have a bestselling
author
> named J.K. Rowling in it. I thought about this when I first saw
Star
> Trek IV: The Voyage Home, the one where they come back to 1980's
San
> Francisco to find humpback whales. The San Francisco they return
to
> is just like the one we know--except for the very odd fact that
it's
> clear that no one in THAT SF has ever seen Star Trek. In the real
San
> Francisco, far from thinking Spock is a weirdo, people would be
> rushing up to shake his hand and examine his ears. The plot works
> fine if 20th century San Franciscans have never heard of Star Trek--
it
> would fall apart if they had.
>
> So maybe when Dumbledore reads the Times it has all the news of the
> day...but no mention of a series of books about a kid named Harry
> Potter?
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> Do the forewords mention JKR, or just Comic Relief? (The former
would
> seem to contradict my theory; the latter lets it stand.)
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> Amy Z
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The forewords DO mention J. K. Rowling. Here's the quote
from "Beasts"
"...making it possible for proceeds from the sale of this book to go
to a fund set up in Harry Potter's name by Comic Relief UK and J. K.
Rowling."
"Quidditch" has a similar sentence too.
The thing about the Rowling Potter books is this: all the events in
them have already happened in "Harry time". The first book took place
in the early 1990's. The seventh book will have taken place in 1998-
1999. Harry Potter in the year 2001 is 21 years old and probably
doesn't closely physically resemble his 11 year old self. So it's
quite possible that Harry can go about the Muggle world unrecognized
in 2001.
The theory I've always had about the Rowling books is that Rowling is
Harry's biographer. Hermione in SS/PS told Harry he has been written
about in at least 3 books (can't remember the titles off-hand).
Moreover there's that line in SS/PS that basically states something
like books will be written about Harry and children all over the
world will read them.
Actually, it would be funny if we find out in book 7 that "J. K.
Rowling" is the pen name for one of Harry's classmates!
:-)Milz
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