Pronounciation/Supervising Students/More Stouffer/Wizarding Money (SPOILER)
prince_galrion at yahoo.no
prince_galrion at yahoo.no
Sun Mar 18 02:43:18 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 14550
Several topics here.
Beating a dead horse back to life (Whip! Smack! And don't you dare
call the RSPCA!), I thought I'd mention my own theory on
pronounciation of two names from the books.
(1) Draco. I believe Draco and his father pronounce it in proper
Latin fashion (Drah-ko as opposed to Dray-ko), based on the fact that
the Malfoys constitute an ancient family proud of its tradition, and
probably of the sort that force-feeds Latin to their children at age
3. They seem the type of people that care about proper
pronounciation of their own names. Also, when Draco introduces
himself on the Hogwarts Express in PS, Ron laughs at his name. I
find it hard to believe that Ron, who is brought up in a wizard-home,
has not heard names just as strange as, or stranger than, Draco
before (names such as Mundungus, Bathilda, etc.). Rather, I think
that he found Draco's way of saying the name (probably with a very
bloated, self-important upper-class tone to it) funny. To see Harry
& Co. pronounce Draco in English fashion, to mock Draco, would seem
perfectly in character to me.
(2) Voldemort. This name, on the other hand, I suspect always has
been known to the general British wizarding-population with a spoken
t. Most will have seen the name only in writing, not daring to speak
his name out loud, but if they would, they probably would pronounce
the t. This is a British society at all, with apparently the
knowledge of French as widespread as it was in UK around 1940 - i.e.
not much at all, so they would not know to mute the t. Chances are
that most would not recognise it as French at all. Whether Voldemort
himself knew French is also open to conjecture - knowing that he grew
up in an orphanage, I doubt it, but we know also that he is
intelligent, so he may have decided to learn French just as a
challenge to himself. If the name is spread solely through writing,
however, it may not matter at all how he himself pronounces it.
***
As to why the Hogwarts Express takes so long time, if Platform 9 3/4
could be located anywhere (including the Malvinas), without
inconvenience to the users, nomatter whence they come - I think the
trip is important in forming relations betweens tudents, without the
pressure of teacher/prefect supervision. We know (I think, at least)
that there are normally not teachers on the train, and the prefects
seem to sit in the forward-most compartments, without actually
patrolling the trains (though the location seems to be known to most
of the students, if they have a problem).
Similarly, I believe the students are without adult supervision in
the common-rooms because the school believes it important for them to
have an area (other than their bedroom) where they can assemble
without adult supervision. I seem to recall the fact that adults
appearing in the common-room is a rare event, normally only happening
I am also under the impression that on british boarding schools there
is a tendency to leave more of the responsibility of supervision and
minor crisis-management (exploding quills and the likes) with the
prefects, who are chosen from the students taht seem to possess the
necessary qualities for such duties. As I deleted the email with the
listof FAQs, I do not remember if there is an FAQ being written on
British boarding-schools, but I certainly hope there is.
***
The following appeared Saturday 17.03.2001 in VG, Norway's largest
newspaper (read by maybe as much as half of Norway's population). VG
is (most of the time, anyway) what can be called a serious tabloid
(but then, every daily tabloid in Norway belongs to the "serious
tabloid"-category). The translation is mine. I am not keen on
letting this go completely without answer - the article is full of
mistakes/errors, starting with the inability to spell JKR's name
properly.
If any of you want to work on writing an item to debunk the
following, I'll be happy to translate it and forward it to the writer
of the article. I am already somewhat bogged down in creative
things I have to write, and have somewhat reduced computer-time on
hand for the time being, so I'd rather not have to do it myself.
Alternatively, one might go for the Letters-section (where the
maximum length is roughly the same as taht of the below manuscript),
or for the Debate-page, where a whole page (Times New Roman, 10pt or
equivalent, four columns) is allotted to a single item (but it's
harder to get accepted). In the debate-column the author is given a
small biography - perhaps an opportunity for more HPforGrownups-
promotion?
FWIW, the item took up a whole column, save three inches at the
bottom given up to an ad.
---------------------------------------------
LARRY IN PLAGIARISM LAWSUIT AGAINST HARRY
LONDON (VG) Harry Potter may need all of his magical abilities if he
wants to rid himself of his new rival Larry Potter.
For Larry Potter is os headed, at flank speed towards the
bookshelves. At the same time, the creator of Larry Potter has sued
the creator of Harry Potter for plagiarism.
The female American writer Nancy Stouffer claims that ideas and
characters in the Harry Potter-books have been stolen by JK Rowlings
from the book "The Legend of Rah and the Muggles", published in USA
in 1984.
And there are stunning similarities beyond just Larry and Harry.
JK Rowlings writes about Lily Potter, Harry's dead mum. Stouffer
also has a character in her book from 1984 called Lilly Potter - with
double L. In the English version of the Harry Potter-books, the
story is about the "Keeper of the Keys". In Stouffer's book the
story is about the "Keeper of the Gardens".
JK Rowlings lets Harry Potter ride on a broom-stick called Nimbus.
In Stouffer's 17 year old book Nimbus is a character that rides
through the air on a horse.
REJECTED
Nancy Stouffer tried to have "The Legend of Rah and the Muggles"
republished in 1998, but was rejected by the publishers - because
they felt that the book could be confused with the books about Harry
Potter.
The American writer believes that JK Rowlings came across her book
when she studied in Baltimore in 1987-88. Stouffer's book was a big
success in USA when it was published, and created several spinoff-
products such as dolls and stickers. Her publisher also promoted it
at Oprah Winfery's popular talkshow.
The judicial fight between the two writers, still in progress in New
York, will not be less ferocious when Stouffer now will attempt to
have her book republished in Great Britain.
JK Rowlings categorically denies all allegations of plagiarism, and
her publisher has now launched a counter-lawsuit. Rowling's counter-
lawsuit is backed by powerful Time-Warner. The movie-giant is not
keen on having a new Potter-character on the market - just a few
months before the premiere of the movie about Harry Potter.
---------------------------------------------
***
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
S
P
A
C
E
A
N
D
M
O
R
E
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
S
P
A
C
E
All of you should really read the "With Thanks"-page (the page before
the title-page)
I agree that the Galleon seems underrated. It may of course be a
result of the exchange-rate not properly reflecting the relations in
actual buying-power between the currencies. This is analogue to what
I experienced on a 3-week tour through Europe with an American
concert-band in 1994: I noted that if I had brought traveler's
cheques in US Dollars (USD) instead of Norwegian Kroner (NOK)
(assuming equivalent amounts), I would have gotten up to 50% more of
the local currency than I did. I brought NOK equivalent of USD400,
but they lasted only as long as 300 *actual* USD would have lasted.
This is of course also *very* beneficial to muggle-born students,
whose money will last a long way.
I also note that there *is* inflation in the wizarding world, as 150
Galleons in 1269 is the equivalent of more than one million Galleons
today.
***
Best regards
Christian Stubø
38% obsessed basset-hound who fondly remembers James Nehring's
book "Why do we gotta do this stuff, Mr. Nehring?"
Captain-general of the mercenary SHIPping-fleet - available for hire
now. protect your own SHIPs against the shameless raids of your
enemy, or search out and atttack your enemy's forces in a preemptive
strike. Crews guaranteed not afraid of spirit-crews such as found on
Snape-Lily. Prepaid jobs only. Stubø Mercenary Ltd. Proudly
increasing the cost of SHIPping-wars. ;-)
P.S. Regarding my offer to lease out a number of ships for your
SHIPing-wars, I forgot to include a price-quote. Prices are as
follows:
For ships, you pay five sickles, three knuts (148 knuts), per ton
deep load per knot designed top speed per day. For the battlecruiser
Lion, the daily rate becomes:
29 700 tons * 28 knots * 148 knuts/(day*knot*ton) = 123 076 800 knuts
= 249648 Galleons, 11 sickles, 17 knuts per day.
The price includes any onboard aircraft, fuel, crew and supplies, but
not ammunition. For ammunition, take the calibre in millimetres
(rounded up (*not* down) to the nearest whole millimetre), divide by
two, multiply by the length of the barrel in calibres, and multiply
by five knuts, to find the price per shot fired. Round the price up
(*not* down) to the nearest knut. The price includes both charge and
shell. Example:
The HMS Lion has 13.5in = 343 mm main artillery, with 45 calibre long
barrels.
Price per shot = (343mm / 2) * 45calibres * 5 knuts/
(calibre*barrellength*shot) = 38588 knuts = 78 Galleons, 4 sickles,
18 knuts per shot. Price is the same for AP, APC, semi-APC and HE-
shells.
She also has 4in = 102 mm secondary artillery, with 50 calibre long
barrels.
Price per shot = (102mm / 2) * 50calibres * 5 knuts/
(calibre*barrellength*shot) = 38588 knuts = 25 Galleons, 14 sickles,
19 knuts per shot. Price is the same for AP, APC, semi-APC and HE-
shells.
Torpedoes has flat price of 200 Galleons per piece.
For purposes of calculations, 12pdr guns will be assumed to be of
3in/50cal model, 6pdr guns will be assumed to be of 57mm/50cal model,
3pdr guns will be assumed to be of 47mm/50cal model and 2pdr guns
will be assumed to be of 40mm/50cal model.
More information about the HPforGrownups
archive