Lily and James alive?

catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk
Tue Mar 27 14:30:18 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 15270

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., laurence at l... wrote:
> Ever since reading PoA for the second time I have thorght that 
there 
> may be a possibility that L+J are still alive. Now JKR has always 
> said in the chats that 'magic cannot bring people back to life' and 
> many people have interpreted this as L+J being dead and never 
coming 
> back. But as fasr as I am aware (and correct me if I am wrong) JKR 
> has never said that we will never see a living L+J, only implied 
it. 
> Also, what or who is Crookshanks? He, she or it seems to be a very 
> clever cat for hearing Ron talk about Scabbers and his whereabouts. 
> Could there be a posability that Crookshanks is an anamagus? I mean 
> JKR is very fond of the things (Pettigrew, Reta Skeeter). Now if he 
> is, then who is he? Could it be Mrs Figg that I think we are all 
> certain is the same as Arabella Figg or is there a posiability if 
> Lily Potter? I doubt that James would have never told her that he 
is 
> an anamagus and she may well have been interested and asked him to 
> teach her how to do it.
> Another reason for L+J still being alive is that during the Prior 
> Incanem (or whatever) James came out of the wand before Lily. Now I 
> don't think that JKR would have made a mistake that big if it is a 
> mistake because when Harry sees that dementors he hears his dad 
> saying to Lily 'It's him, you take Harry and I'll hold him off'. 
> Harry never sees either his Mum or Dad get killed, only a flash of 
> green light that must have created his scar. Anyway if they were 
> killed then James would have been killed first and then Lily so 
they 
> would have come out of the wand in reverse order.
> I know that's a bit muddled but I hope you get the drift!
> 
> Laurence

The only people who came out of V's wand were people who were 
killed.  V had just previously used his wand to torture Harry and one 
of the Death Eaters, and this didn't come out during the Priori 
Incantatum, therefore it seems that this has the effect of creating  
temporary ghosts of people killed and things which no longer exist 
which can be recreated (such as the Dark Mark during the Quidditch 
World Cup).  (Please don't tell me about the recreation of the Dark 
Mark, I can't explain that yet).  And leading on to why some people 
become ghosts, and others don't - those that do all have one thing in 
common...violent deaths.

Also, hasn't this mistake in order been corrected in the later 
reprints?  I am sure that someone has mentioned recently that this 
was merely an continuity error on JKR's part.

I just don't see the logic in Lily and James still being alive.  And 
I am sure that Dumbledore would know if they were and he is forever 
giving Harry pep talks about them being alive within him etc.
I also think that although we will probably here more about their 
earlier lives etc, that JKR also uses them as a device to teach 
children about death.

Catherine






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