SHIP: Hermione & the Boys/ Ginny Weasley

[catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk]

No: HPFGUIDX 15286

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer <pennylin at s...> 
wrote:
> Hi --
> 
> catherine at c... wrote:
> 
> > No, no, no... RON and Hermione.  I have become quite obsessed with
> > this.
> 
> > All this seems more likely on rereading, in light of JKR's 
comments
> > in the Comic Relief online interview.  Someone asked if Hermione
> > liked Ron as more than just a friend, and she said that the 
answer to
> > that was in GoF.  Therefore I am sure that there will be 
developments
> > at some stage.
> 
> Ah, you're *sure* about that, are you?  There's plenty of H/H 
evidence
> in GoF too, you know.  Her answer was quite ambiguous in my mind.
> Hermione's feelings are quite open to more than one 
interpretation.  <g>
> 

> She chose to spend virtually all her time with Harry when Harry & 
Ron
> were fighting.  She couldn't be bothered to talk to Viktor Krum, 
who had
> just saved her from the lake & declared his feelings for her, 
because
> she was too busy cheering for & talking to *Harry*.  Krum is jealous
> enough of Harry as a potential romantic rival to confront Harry 
about
> their relationship, and what he says is that Hermione talks about 
Harry
> all the time!  We are not led to believe that he has a similar
> conversation with Ron or that he in any way regards Ron as a threat 
to
> his relationship with Hermione.  Krum doesn't cite Skeeter's 
article as
> the basis for his jealousy -- he bases it entirely on Hermione's 
very
> own actions.  Skeeter also apparently perceives that there's a 
possible
> angle there.  If Hermione's feelings for Ron were really all that
> obvious, why would Skeeter think that her articles about H & H would
> touch a nerve?  Skeeter clearly has an agenda .... if there was 
truly
> nothing there, then would she have used that particular angle or 
tried
> to find something else to get at Harry?
> 
> So .... you get my point.  "The answer is in GoF" is really no 
answer at
> all in my mind.  :--)
 
> > 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm
> 
> Penny
 
Sorry to labour over this, but in that case, why is Hermione so 
furious with Ron and not Harry, when HP is behaving in just the same 
way?  It is Ron she is mad with for not noticing that she's a girl, 
not Harry.  I know you will probably say that she cuts Harry a lot of 
slack because of having to deal with being Champion etc. but she 
still doesn't seem to care less that he wanted to take Cho to the 
ball.  I also think that she was spending time with Harry because she 
was being her normal supportive self (helping with summoning charms 
etc.)  Where is the evidence that she spends less time with Ron?  She 
is more mediator than on Harry's side;  she has to spell it out to 
Harry exactly what Ron's problem is and she makes it clear that she 
is very unhappy about the situation and wants Harry to sort it out 
(which he won't).  

Regarding Krum, his jealousy of Harry is understandable, whether 
founded or not.  Harry is his rival in the tournament, he knows 
Hermione is trying to help Harry and wants him to win, and he 
probably can't get past the idea of Harry's fame and status.  It is 
highly unlikely that Krum even noticed Ron's existence, apart from 
his being Harry's friend.  He sees Harry as a rival, period, whether 
as a competitor in the Tournament, or over Hermione - the two have 
naturally come together.

I don't think Rita Skeeter thought much about Harry and Hermione's 
relationship.  The Slytherins were feeding her stories, and we know 
what a low opinion Draco has of Hermione's appearance - he probably 
thought it would embarass Harry to be linked to Hermione that way.  
Rita was probably looking around for a likely candidate for a love 
interest, and realised that Hermione is really the only girl Harry is 
close to.  The Krum thing was probably just a bonus.

> Like Heidi said, some of us think the fact that she kissed Harry at 
the
> end of GoF could be a signal that she has romantic interest in 
Harry.
I read this as being sympathetic and concerned, even motherly, which 
she always has had a tendancy to do with both Harry and Ron.     
Afterall, Voldemort is back, Harry has just had to go through a great 
deal, none of them know what is going to happen over the summer - and 
Harry is the one most at risk.  It seemed to me a natural action.  
(But please don't beat me up over this, I'm not objecting to H/H, 
just think the other is more likely).


> I heavily dispute the notion that Ginny is growing into a stronger
> character.  She's still actively excluded from the Trio.  She gets 
very
> little development or "on-screen time" in GoF (a tad more than PoA 
but
> then, what would it take?).  What is Ginny's "worth"?  We don't know
> hardly anything about her.  She's the most undeveloped Weasley 
character
> at this point.  All we know is that she's chatty at home but 
hopelessly
> shy around Harry.  She was Riddle's pawn/victim in CoS.  What else 
do we
> really know about Ginny?  We don't even know who she hangs around 
with
> (we know the twins' best friend is Lee and that Fred has some sort 
of
> relationship with Angelina).  I maintain we know next to nothing 
about
> Ginny.  Sorry, but I can't get behind the H/G ship at all without 
*alot*
> more info on little Ginny.  Being a Weasley is not enough in my mind
> (yeah, I know ... I just lost any shot of ever joining W.A.I.L.,
> right?).  <g>

As to Ginny Weaseley again, I still think her small appearances are 
telling.  I appreciate that she isn't part of the trio, but that is 
more to Ron and Harry's perception of her than Hermione's.  I think 
that Ginny is there behind the scenes as someone that Hermione talks 
to and confides in - (we know Hermione doesn't have much time for the 
girls in her own year) for instance, Ginny knew who Hermione's date 
was.

Catherine