Scar - Time-turning - Moon - Thigh boots - Dark Mark
Amy Z
aiz24 at hotmail.com
Tue May 1 14:27:02 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 18015
Neil wrote:
>It's interesting that, in this story, it marks Harry out as
different, but different in a positive way
and Jenny wrote:
> It is also something that the Dursleys cannot control or erase.
Yeah to both! Emphases mine, corresponding footnotes follow:
"=The only thing Harry liked about his own appearance= [1] was a very
thin scar on his forehead which was shaped =like a bolt of lightning=
[2]. He had had it for as long as he could remember and =the first
question he could ever remember asking his Aunt Petunia= [3] was how
he had got it" (PS/SS 2).
To me, this signalled from the start that:
[1]-this is a kid who wouldn't be ashamed for being different
-he is set apart from the world he lives in (the world of the
Dursleys)
-his history, when he learns it, will be something to be proud of and
sad about
[2]-the scar is a sign of power. Yes, I know JKR said the reason she
chose lightning was that she needed a shape that was distinctive while
also being a plausible form for a scar to take. But lightning is also
symbolic of tremendous power: in this case, Voldemort's and Harry's
own. Twelve years after receiving it, he'll start riding a Firebolt .
. .
[3]-the most important things about him are encoded in this scar,
something he intuits even as a tiny child
Scott wrote:
>On a related time travel note how is it that neither Harry nor Ron
>even think that Hermione might have during all of PoA? Surely, though
>rare, it is not an unheard of event? I mean if you KNOW someone is in
>two places at once, or at least suspect so, then wouldn't you
>consider time-travel (especially in a place where magic is so
>ordinary.)
Now I feel dumb. I didn't think of it while I was reading. My guess
was that Hermione had somehow split herself in three--hence the
uncharacteristic behavior (hitting Malfoy, stomping out of Divination)
and seeming not to know where she'd been at times.
I do think Dumbledore is treading on thin ice when he tells Snape at
the end, "unless you are suggesting that Harry and Hermione are able
to be in two places at once..." (PA 22). It may be that no one but
McGonagall and Dumbledore knows she has a Time-Turner, but in nine
months of classes, two professors might easily have discovered that
they had both taught Hermione at the same time and put two and two
together. She makes no effort to conceal her schedule. Snape surely
knows about Time-Turners, and it wouldn't take much for it to click
for him that Hermione certainly =can= be in two places at once.
Scabbers/Moon delurked to say:
<various things about the problems with the moon in PoA>
I was just the other day counting between Halloween and Christmas to
try to make the full moons match up. It bugs me that they don't, but
at least the transformations are spaced at roughly the right times.
There is a hilariously bad movie called Werewolf (I recommend the
Mystery Science Theater 3000 version--no one should watch this movie
unaided) in which the moon is full night after night in order to
accommodate the plot. I found this unforgivable, yet I'm willing to
cut PA lots of slack. But I would have been much happier if the moon
really worked in PA.
Neil titillated:
>hang on, that's another list, where I pretend to be Captain Janeway
>in thigh boots...
We let you get away with not posting the bunny slippers picture, but
this we cannot resist. I want to see a picture of Neil as Janeway
pronto, and the thigh-highs had better be in there.
Dave pondered:
> What I don't get is that if the MoM ever had any doubts about
> who was really on V's side and who wasn't, why didn't they
> just look at their arm?
I think it is invisible most of the time. V may be an Unhinged Evil
Overlord, but tattooing members of a secret society is dumber than
dumb.
Counterevidence: Karkaroff's distress suggests that it was visible
when Voldemort was powerful, faded after his downfall, and is only now
becoming visible because he is returning.
Evidence: "There," said Snape harshly. "There. The Dark Mark. It
is not as clear as it was, an hour or so ago, when it burnt black, but
you can still see it" (GF 36). This suggests that even though
Voldemort is, as far as we know, alive and feeling fine (if a tad
peeved), the mark will fade again--to invisibility, perhaps?
More evidence: Sirius doesn't know anything about it, despite being
in the resistance and then in Azkaban, where, even if most prisoners
are in solitary most of the time, you'd think he would have seen it
sooner or later.
Still, I think V should be more careful. What if Malfoy had been
playing tennis with Fudge at the moment V touched Wormtail's mark?
Bad scene.
Maybe it is visible only to DEs and to those to whom they wish to
expose it?
Amy Z
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"Do you mean ter tell me," he growled at the Dursleys, "that
this boy--this boy!--knows nothin' abou'--about ANYTHING?"
Harry thought this was going a bit far.
-HP and the Philosopher's Stone
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