What was the Plot-Hole? (was Re: What Dumbledore (doesn't) knows)

Haggridd jkusalavagemd at yahoo.com
Mon May 7 19:28:49 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 18334

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., naama_gat at h... wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Morag Traynor" <moragt at h...> wrote:
> > MMMfanfic wrote:
> > >
> > >A question I have is how did Dumbledore know someone is after the
> > >Stone in the first place without knowing who is after it?  
> Divination?
> > 
> > How did he know someone would be after a stone that gives the 
> possessor 
> > immortality and boundless wealth???? <g> OK, I assume you mean how 
> did he 
> > know someone would be after it at that particular time.  Perhaps 
> there had 
> > been an attempt on it before, and Nicholas Flamel had asked him to 
> look 
> > after it.  Presumably it wasn't at Gringotts then.  Or perhaps D 
> has some 
> > link with Voldemort - it wouldn't be the first time he has acted 
> with 
> > uncanny speed. He must have sent Hagrid with instructions to get 
> baby Harry 
> > within minutes of V's flight:  Hagrid is (as far as we know) first 
> on the 
> > scene.  It can't have been more than a couple of hours, for a baby 
> to 
> > survive in the rubble.  (I know there are amazing stories of 
> infants 
> > surviving days after an earthquake, but a novel, even one with 
> wizards and 
> > dragons, has to stick with what's plausible.)  Yet he misses three 
> > unregistered animagi under his nose for several years.  Odd.
> > 
> 
> What's even odder is that for almost a year somebody was 
> impersonating a good friend of his, under his very nose, in very 
> close quarters, and he didn't spot it. The wise, intuitive 
> Dumbledore. Let me join Rosmerta (I think) in suggesting that JKR 
> switched to the False Moody solution after writing large chunks of 
> the story with Moody being the real Moody. The False Moody solution 
> is so mechanical. It's the one thing in the books that really jars 
> me. Much more than all the little flints we keep dredging up.
> 
> Naama

This is the third time that I have heard someone theorizing that JKR 
originally had Mad-Eye as a real goodguy, and invented Barty Jr., to 
fill in a hole in the plot, and that the impersonation therfore 
stands out as poorly crafted.  Does anybody know what that problem 
was, and what discrepancy the creation of young Crouch corrected?

Haggridd





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