Old buds? was Moody-Crouch
catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk
catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk
Sat May 12 20:44:33 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 18638
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Amanda Lewanski <editor at t...> wrote:
> Amy Z wrote:
>
> > He interrogates him as needed all year, using the Imperius Curse
> > ("Veritaserum"); that's why he keeps him alive (though he may
also do
> > so because you can only make Polyjuice out of stuff from a
> > still-living person--I wonder). Even so it seems a little weak;
> > impersonating someone well enough to fool his longtime friend
must be
> > very hard to pull off.
>
> Is there any evidence in canon that Dumbledore and Moody were
friends?
> Longtime, close, whatever? I'm not recalling this. And in any case,
> Moody has been pretty much a recluse since the Voldemort years, and
is
> an odd individual at the best of times. It's a pretty good pick for
an
> impersonator, since things he gets wrong or does strangely can be
> attributed to the oddball personality of the person being
impersonated.
>
> Point being, we're assuming Dumbledore (a) knew Moody pretty well,
or at
> least knew him well enough to pick up on personality quirks, and (b)
> spent enough time with Moody, hangin' out or whatever, to have
picked up
> on such things. I don't think either one is necessarily supported by
> canon.
>
> Moody (the real one, pre-Crouch attack) did agree to come out of
> retirement at Dumbledore's request. However, I submit that
Dumbledore's
> stature in the wizarding community, coupled with the presence of
Harry
> at Hogwarts and the need to protect him, would have been enough to
> induce Moody to agree, without there *having* to have been a bond of
> friendship to call upon.
>
> --Amanda
You could be right, but he does say it is a "great personal favour"
rather than a favour to the school, the MoM etc. He also treats
Moody with slightly more familiarity than we are used to - I don't
think he often calls other teachers by their first names - at least
not in the presence of students, and I recall at least one instance
when he calls him Alastair instead of Professor Moody, which in my
mind shows that they have at least some history/friendship prior to
Hogwarts. Also, we do not know exactly how much time they get to
spend together whilst at Hogwarts.
Moody is also present at the same trials as Dumbledore (as seen in
the Pensieve). Whilst this is not conclusive in itself, the two are
sitting together, and talking about what is going on - showing again
that they do have some degree of familiarity.
I still do agree that it is surprising that Dumbledore didn't twig
that something wasn't quite right. However, after reading the book
again and again, when the element of surprise is no longer there, I
often have to shake myself to remember that it is Crouch-as-Moody,
not just Moody, as he seems to do everything right as far as his
teaching role is concerned.
Catherine
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