[HPforGrownups] Re: Lupin on the train

Tim Kronsell timkronsell2 at ofir.dk
Sat May 19 06:31:11 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 18999

Hello all

In the discussion about Lupin knows that Ron has a rat or not, remember that 
the story arc is a full year, how many convesations between Lupin and the kids 
havent we seen (heard). At any time could Ron have mentioned Scabbers, and 
granted, JKR usually gives such clues away, but maybe this was just the time 
she didnt.

Darreder

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>Lupin would have recognized Scabbers immediately if he actually saw
>him. Sirius recognized him from a picture in the paper. Lupin sees a
>lump in Ron's pocket and thinks 'so, Ron has a rat, no big deal.' but
>when he sees Peter on the map... CLICK
>
>Dumbledore could have heard or simply asked 'Harry, do you like
>riding the Express?' 'Where did you usually sit?' Then he puts Lupin
>in the most likely spot Harry would go.
>
>Bugg
>
>
>
>Milz wrote:
>> I've subscribed to the idea that Dumbledore had Lupin ride the
>Express to Hogwarts in the event that Sirius Black should try to
>harm Harry en route. I'm not so sure how much of a coincidence it
>was that Harry, Ron and Hermione shared the compartment with Lupin.
>
>
>Amy Wrote:
>> Strange, he never visited him in azkaban and asked him about it.
>That might have cleared up a lot of problems, huh?  (And ruined a
>fantastic story.)  I get the sense prisoners in Azkaban aren't
>allowed too many visitors.  As soon as we get Fudge out of the
>MOM and get this little Voldemort skirmish out of the way, let's
>institute some prison reform.  Sirius Black for chief of Magical
>Law Enforcement!
>
>>I also wondered whether Lupin knows Ron has a rat, and I think
>he probably does because he so quickly grasps what must be
>happening when he sees Peter's name on the map.  If he didn't
>know HR or H had a pet rat, he'd think Peter was stowing away or
>something.  Also, once in the Shrieking Shack, he doesn't see
>Scabbers until he asks Ron to take him out:
>He had stopped his pacing, his eyes moving over Ron.
>"Do you think I could have a look at the rat?" he said evenly. .
>Ron hesitated, then put a hand inside his robes.  Scabbers
>emerged, thrashing desperately . . . (PA 17)
>
>>From what he saw on the map, it made sense to think Peter was rat
>in Ron's pocket, but how does he know he's still with Ron and not,
>say, Hermione?  How does he know he hasn't run away entirely?
>It all seems like too much for him to put together unless he
>already knows Ron has a rat and puts it together.
>Ron does carry Scabbers around in his pocket, including to class,
>it seems, so Lupin could easily have seen him anytime.  He
>wouldn't have thought anything of it.
>
>Amy Z
>
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