[HPforGrownups] Lexicon Time Line Dates?

[Mark Navarrete]

No: HPFGUIDX 19515

>From: Catlady <catlady at wicca.net>
>Reply-To: HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com
>To: HP4G <HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [HPforGrownups] Lexicon Time Line Dates?
>Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 21:39:08 -0700
>
>Now the longer question:
>I haven't been able to sort out WHEN Gryffindor won the Quidditch Cup
>versus the House Cup. Can anyone explain it to me?

*snippage*

I agree with that Slytherin won the House Cups 6 times consecutively from 
June 1986 to 1991.

>      Slytherin didn't win the House Cup in june 1985 because that would
>have been seven years in a row, therefore Gryffindor did, that was
>Charlie's senior year.

I don't see it that way.  Just because Slytherin didn't win the House Cup 
that yeat doesn't mean that Gryffindor was the one that beat them.

>Gryffindor won the Quidditch Cup when Charlie was Seeker (june 1985) and
>didn't win it again until PoA (june 1994)

No.  Wood (as you quote below) said that, at the time of Book 3 (School-year 
1993-94), Gryffindor hadn't won the Quidditch Cup in 7 years.  Add that 
information to the following quotes:

>      PoA: "Gryffindor hadn't won the Quidditch Cup since the legendary
>Charlie Weasley (Ron's second oldest brother) had been seeker"
>      SS: "I tell you, we're going to win that Quidditch cup for sure
>this year," said Fred. "We haven't won since Charlie left..."

... And you can conclude that the last time Gryffindow won the Quidditch Cup 
was in June 1986, right before Charlie graduated.  This was at the same time 
Slytherin won its first House Cup in its 6-year winning streak.  There is no 
contradiction there.  Winning the Quidditch Cup has an effect on House Cup 
points but it doesn't ensure it.  After all, Gryffindor didn't win the 
Quidditch Cup in Book 1 and 2, but they still won the House Cups those 
years.

>If Slytherin won the Quidditch Cup in 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990,
>1991, 1992, 1993, that would be EIGHT in a row. So WHY did Wood say in
>PoA: "Gryffindor hasn't won for seven years now." SEVEN???? It doesn't
>make sense that Gryff would have won the Quidditch Cup but not the House
>Cup the year AFTER Charlie left!
>

--Mark
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