Who killed James & Lily?
shanerichmond at hotmail.com
shanerichmond at hotmail.com
Thu Nov 1 10:07:45 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 28581
Hi all,
I was reading the Lexicon at
http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/timeline_potters.html and was
surprised by the contention that someone other than Voldemort killed
James and Lily Potter. It argues that, since the spell that rebounded
from Harry to Voldemort is not seen during Priori Incantatem, then it
must have come before the spells attacking Lily and James and
therefore Voldemort (who was, by then, incapacitated, did not kill
them).
This seems to ignore a lot of evidence:
Voldemort: "Better save your own life and join me... Or you'll meet
the same end as your parents... They died begging me for mercy." PS
Ch.17
You might of course argue that, though they were begging Voldemort
for mercy, they were in fact killed by someone else. However:
Voldemort: "Yes, boy, your parents were brave... I killed your father
first but he put up a courageous fight... but your mother needn't
have died... she was trying to protect you..." ibid.
So is Voldemort lying when he says he killed James? Or perhaps he was
mistaken, and killed someone disguised as James? And why would Lily
have been trying to protect Harry if the spell had already backfired
on Voldemort? Surely it would have been clear to her that she HAD
protected him? And then:
Harry: "No one knows why you lost your powers when you attacked me...
I don't know myself. But I know why you couldn't kill me. Because my
mother died to save me." CoS Ch.17
Now if Voldemort couldn't kill Harry because his mother died to save
him, then this would suggest that Lily died BEFORE Harry was
attacked, wouldn't it? And it would also serve to negate the theory
that Voldemort killed imposters posing as Harry's parents, since only
a dying mother could have created such powerful protection over Harry.
That last excerpt seems to prove that Lily died before Harry was
attacked, and Voldemort, quoted above, says that he killed her -
something that Harry also hears in PoA:
"Not Harry! Not Harry! Please, I'll do anything-" "Stand aside girl-"
PoA Ch.12
Further evidence:
Voldemort: "His mother died in an attempt to save him - and
unwittingly provided him with a protection I admit I had not foreseen
[...] His mother left upon him the traces of her sacrifice [...] My
curse was deflected by the woman's sacrifice." GoF Ch.33
Which again suggests that Lily died before Harry was attacked. It
seems that the Lexicon takes one fact, that the attack on Harry is
not represented by the spells seen in Priori Incantatem, and uses it
to draw a wild conclusion. In doing so, it ignores a central thread
of canon evidence.
I have two possible explanations:
1. We already know of an error within Priori Incantatem, perhaps
there is another, which led to the omission of the spell which
backfired from Harry to Voldermort.
2. Perhaps only spells which can be represented in some way (ie. by
the body of the person who died, their screams of pain, or their
missing hand) were visible from the wand. Harry did not die, or lose
a limb and, since he was a baby and unaware of his circumstances he
may not even have screamed. Perhaps the spell did come out of the
wand but we simply didn't see it?
Either way, who is prepared to join with me in laying this
preposterous Lexicon theory to bed?
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