Sorting Hat and Weasleys

laoisecronin at yahoo.com laoisecronin at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 6 10:23:39 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 28847

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Susanna Luhtanen" <s_luhtanen at h...> wrote:
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> Susanna Luhtanen
> s_luhtanen at h...
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> >Of all the theories resulting from this thread today, I agree with
> >
> >No one is going to follow any of these perfectly, but that's why 
the
> >Sorting Hat waffled over Harry....sometimes he *is* willing to be
> >devious or sneaky to get what he needs.  (Remember the Polyjuice
> >Potion?  Keeping things from Dumbledore?  *Anything* involving the
> >Invisibility Cloak??? <g>)
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> Um - Harry used Polyjuice to confirm or deny his doubts on who 
opened the 
> CoS. Figuring out the truth. That's the good and right thing to do 
(rather 
> than act on doubt - particularly since Draco was innocent compare 
with 
> Ministry vs. Sirius) - this did lead Harry to learn Slytherin 
password. He 
> never used it for anything since. Nor did he, later on, ever use 
the 
> Hufflepuff Password for anything but the thing he got it for doing.
> Should a Slytherin learned the password and possessed invisibility 
cloak - I 
> think they'd been on a visit much more often with no good reason.
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> >It can explain a lot of weird Hat choices, I think, such as Neville
> >in Gryffindor...
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> Gryffindor virtues: Courage and Courtesy.
> Neville fails in neither - in fact, I find him as the most 
courageous of all 
> characters. Harry found him braver because he'd lost his parents, 
who were 
> still alive - and later we found they don't recognise Neville - 
that alone 
> would be courageous. But, that aside, in PoA we find that Neville's 
worst 
> fear is Professor Snape.
> So - Neville is facing his worst fear regularly, three times a week 
with a 
> group, on a subject that requires doing the thing exactly right 
way, having 
> trouble remembering details, and knowing that the slightest mistake 
will 
> mean Detention hour alone with his worst fear.
> Now that - facing his fear like that - is what I call courage.
> 
> Courtesy: Neville's best glamour on this is when he volunteers to 
stay - 
> when others go to Hogwarts - just so that Harry doesn't have to be 
alone. 
> (and then what happens? Harry lies to him so he can go anyway. 
Neville's 
> best - Harry's worst. I never saw Harry apologising to Neville 
afterwards... 
> or am I having memory trouble here?)
> 
> Always kindly reminding others as to just where that trapstep is...
> 
> Must say that Gryffindor is the place for Neville - it's confidence 
in 
> himself that he lacks - not courage nor courtesy.
> 
 When did Harry get the hufflepuff password??
 When you said "when others go to hogwarts" did you mean Hogsmeade 
because Neville didn't stay so Harry wouldn't be alone ,he was being 
punished for the passwords being stolen and used by Sirius.Neville 
didn't even remember that Harry wasn't going until he saw him in the 
corridor.
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