Boggarts - MOVIE: Heyman - deus ex machina - V's memory

[Amy Z]

No: HPFGUIDX 26959

Dave H wrote:

> More problematic for me is the boggart in the maze, it turns into a
> tangle-footed dementor first, *then* he says "Riddikulus", which
> destroys it (without laughter), just the reverse of what it should 
be.
> *That* I think is a genuine Flint.

It might just be leaving out some steps, as with the scene in Lupin's 
office.  We don't see what amusing form it takes when Harry says 
"Riddikulus"; we don't hear Harry laugh; but both might happen.

I also agree with   ...was it Luke? sorry...  that it might not be 
necessary actually to laugh aloud; what wipes a Boggart out is the 
change in its victim from fearful to amused.

Do you think laughter kills Boggarts, or do they just disappear and go 
somewhere else?

Luke wrote:

> How do you guys interpret this quote?
 >
 > "There are certain things that will be a surprise that aren't fully
 > evolved in the book. You think about Voldemort.  You look at what
 > happens in the end. It's so deus ex machina."

Haggridd wrote:

>Perhaps he
> is referring in the EW interview to there being some footage in the
> movie depicting  how Dumbledore defeats Voldemort, and not just have
> Harry wake up like Dorothy in "The Wizard of Oz" to find that
> everything has turned out well.

Given that they're probably going to have to cut beloved scenes in 
order to keep the movie to anything approximating normal length, I 
would rather they didn't add in scenes that aren't there.  
Dumbledore's appearance is just as much a deux ex machina whether or 
not we see the showdown between him and V.  I think Heyman's "not 
fully evolved" comment was a euphemism for "we've written stuff that 
JKR didn't."

Susan Hall wrote:

>Fawkes in CoS may be rather more of d.e.m

I don't think so.  JKR saves it from being such by making Harry's 
loyalty to Dumbledore a major theme--and one that ties back into his 
fears about where he belongs.  Fawkes doesn't "just show up"; he is 
called.

Susan again:

>Incidentally, we've been talking about whether Neville got in the way 
of a
> memory charm, but compared to the crucial things Voldemort forgets 
Neville
> counts as Mr Eidetic. 

LOL!  

> <snip>  Anyone want to suggest that the traumatic
> circumstances of his becoming an orphan damaged Tom Riddle's memory?

We do know it was a difficult birth . . .

Amy Z

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  "Blimey," said the other twin.  "Are you--?"
  "He =is=," said the first twin.  "Aren't you?" 
 he added to Harry.
  "What?" said Harry.
  "=Harry Potter=," chorused the twins.
  "Oh, him," said Harry.  "I mean, yes, I am."
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