Gay Characters
cynthiaanncoe at home.com
cynthiaanncoe at home.com
Sat Oct 6 14:33:58 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 27235
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Alexandra Y. Kwan" <litalex at y...> wrote:
>
> Perhaps they're all perfectly fine with it
> and take it as calmly and casually as people do in...I don't know,
Holland
> or something.
>
> The best way to 'properly' introduce a gay character into the mix,
imho,
> would be to do it as off-handedly as Cho, with her presumably
Chinese
> background, was introduced, as Angelina, with her African-British
(?)
> heritage, was introduced, etc. If having an ethnicity other than
the, um,
> majority's isn't a big deal, having a sexual orientation that's not
> mainstream shouldn't be a big deal either.
>
I'm not sure that it would work to casually introduce a character's
sexual orientation in the way one can casually introduce race. Race
is a physical trait that Harry can readily observe, of course,
whereas sexual orientation is not immediately observable to our
protagonist. It would have to be revealed through dialogue or some
sort of action, as you indicate below.
> For example, Ms. Rowling mentioned casually that Malfoy was going
with
> Pansy what's her name to the Yule Ball. She could have as easily
mentioned
> that he was going with, um, one of the male Quidditch members on
Slytherin
> and Harry giving the aside joke of "Now I know why all the
Slytherin are
> always stuck in the practice room. And if a gay villain isn't a
good idea,
> you could have, oh, Seamus Finnigan merrily going with Dean Thomas
to the
> Yule Ball. And Harry could either wink and laugh, or sputter, "But
you
> like girls!" If it's the latter, then you can have Seamus or Dean
wink and
> dismiss it easily with some joke (e.g. pinching the other's nose
and says
> "But just *look* at how cute he is! How can I not!")
>
Should introducing a gay character in the HP books, or even hinting
at the subject, be a Big Deal? No. Would it be Big Deal in the
U.S.? Well, "Big Deal" isn't exactly right, because the correct term
would be Commercial Kiss of Death.
The HP books in the U.S. were initially viewed as kids' books. I
first heard of them because my daughter's teacher read them to the
kids in second grade. Yes, we have all discussed how they have gone
far beyond kids books now, and we know that JKR plans to move the
series away from childrens' literature in future books. But so long
as toy stores in the U.S. are filled with little HP toys, I think a
lot of people will continue to see them as primarily childrens' books.
In the U.S., there are unfortunately large numbers of people who are
openly hostile to anything gay, and there are really huge numbers of
people who are "tolerant", meaning they are willing to live and let
live, but they don't want gay issues presented to them. Sorry, but
it is true. Recall that Disney was subjected to a silly boycott for
daring to offer health insurance to partners of its gay and lesbian
workers. People get even more unreasonably hysterical if they think
their children have been "exposed" to something gay.
So if JKR came to me and said she was thinking of introducing a gay
character, well, we'd have to go out for tea so I could explain that
doing so would probably kill the series in the U.S. The most she
could probably do is have Harry just "wonder" about some character's
orientation. But I have a hard time (plot-wise) seeing how Harry can
muse about this and have it in some way be relevant to the upcoming
fight against Voldemort.
I'll pause to note that someone posted that the books are supposed to
be fantasy, not weighed down by heavy social issues. I guess this is
true in some sense. There is certainly a great deal of talk in the
books about themes like prejudice, etc., and certain characters are
identified by race. But JKR has stayed away from direct comment on
hot-button and controversial issues of the day. So I doubt that
we'll see Fleur deal with an abortion or unwanted pregnancy, despite
how important these issues are. For me, it would be just a little
too much information.
I hope gay issues will be regarded differently and with more
understanding in the future, and maybe they will be. But unless JKR
would like to sacrifice the commercial success of HP for the purpose
of increasing understanding and appreciation of gay issues, I think
she has to stay 10 feet away from gay relationships. (For what it is
worth, I think she should also tread very lightly with various hetero
Ships, too, because if she goes much beyond schoolyard crushes
like "The Unexpected Task", there's gonna be trouble.)
Cindy (who appreciates the maturity and consideration evident in the
posts on this topic)
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