[HPforGrownups] winner of Tri-Wizard Cup

Susanna Luhtanen s_luhtanen at hotmail.com
Mon Oct 15 14:46:53 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 27673



Susanna Luhtanen
s_luhtanen at hotmail.com



>I'm not sure I can give Harry (or anyone) credit for winning the cup,
>as the whole thing was rigged from the start by Moody.  It may not be
>fair to suggest that Harry beat his competitors, as each was disabled
>(either directly or indirectly) by Moody in the maze.  Also, poor
>Cedric wasn't able to duck Crucio because Krum sneaked up on him from
>behind.  In contrast, Harry received a big boost from Moody, who
>cursed obstacles out of Harry's way.

Not the Crucio - The Avada Kedavra cast by Pettigrew/Voldemort. (After 
Cedric and Harry shared the Cup). (Extra Task to determine the Winner) 
-Cedric was hit - Harry managed to duck behind the gravestone...

>If anyone can be said to have won, it is Cedric, who had to defeat
>all obstacles in his way by himself, and survive the Cruciatus curse
>as well.

We don't know if Harry would have done it as well, do we? Summoning Patronus 
during third year (When very few adults can) & all the studying about 
curses...

>Also, it is debatable whether Harry would have been able to resist an
>Imperius curse if he didn't know it was coming (Krum couldn't have
>known Moody was about to curse him.)

Harry resisted Imperius not only in the class but also when Voldemort put it 
on him.

>Cindy (wondering if the real winner of the Triwizard Tournament was
>Crouch/Moody)

If Crouch's portkey had been faulty - (Or someone managed to rid that spell 
just in time) - It might be that Harry and Cedric might have solved their 
bettering by a duel, but oh well...

Facing the REAL evil ones: Harry survived, Cedric didn't.
Pettigrew did imprison Harry instead of killing him, but was he unable to 
kill him because of the life-debt? or would Harry have ducked that one as 
well as the one by Voldemort?...

And - even if Cedric and Harry - all other things considered, Harry managing 
to do that as fourth-year against three seventh-years does give a bit of 
extra-credit to Harry...

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