points in GF and in general (was Interhouse . . .)
Amy Z
aiz24 at hotmail.com
Tue Oct 16 03:16:14 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 27724
There are actually several cases of points being rewarded and subtracted in
GoF. I compiled them during a bout of LOON-Binns Disease, a chronic
condition that flares up now and then.
student: Ron and Harry
teacher: Snape
points taken: -50 combined
reason: shouting at Snape
notes: In defense of Hermione. "It was lucky . . . their voices echoed so
much in the stone corridor, for in the confused din, it was impossible for
[Snape] to hear exactly what they were calling him. He got the gist,
however." They also get detention (pickling rats' brains, GF19).
ref: GF18
student: Fawcett (Hufflepuff girl)
teacher: Snape
points taken: -10
reason: smooching in the rosebushes
notes: Is that against the rules?
ref: GF23
student: Stebbins (Ravenclaw boy)
teacher: Snape
points taken: -10
reason: smooching in the rosebushes
notes: see above
ref: GF23
student: Hermione
teacher: Snape
points taken: -10
reason: discussing her fascinating social life in class
ref: GF27
student: Hermione
teacher: give you three guesses and the first two don't count
points taken: -10
reason: reading magazines in class (Witch Weekly)
notes: he also reads the article aloud, to the Slytherins' amusement
ref: GF27
The Quidditch Cup and House Cup are undoubtedly two different things.
"Gryffindor house, meanwhile, largely thanks to their spectacular
performance in the Quidditch Cup, had won the House Championship for the
third year running" (PA 22).
Interestingly, although the Quidditch Cup is awarded on the basis of total
scores as well as win/loss record (or even instead of--it's unclear), a win
in Quidditch seems to garner a house a flat number of points toward the
*House* Cup: 50 points for a win, period. I base the former on the race
for the Cup in PA, in which Gryffindor needs to win by a certain margin in
order to capture the Cup--it isn't enough to win more matches than any other
team (since G and S each end up with three victories, it may be the case
that total score is only used as a tiebreaker). The flat-number
observation, on the other hand, comes from CS 11, in which Percy tells Harry
that G's win gave them 50 points toward the House Cup. It seems unlikely
that G's victory was by a margin of 50 points, meaning they were down by 100
when Harry caught the Snitch: the game in question is the one with the rogue
bludger (CS 10), and although Slytherin is winning by 60 points the last
time we hear the score, it seems unlikely that the scoring would continue to
be that uneven once Fred and George return to defending the rest of the
team. It's impossible to be sure, though.
Amy Z
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