Bertha Jorkins (WAS Unicorns - Potions - Animagi - Jorkins)

[Cindy C.]

No: HPFGUIDX 28014


> Cindy wrote:
> 
> > For this Bertha Jorkins stuff to be important to make it into the 
> > Pensieve and for Dumbledore to still be sad about it, 
the "kissing" 
> > has to be more than garden-variety kissing.
> 
Catlady wrote:

> I read it as, Dumbledore is not still sad about the kissing, he is 
> sad about Bertha's death. "Why did you have to follow him in the 
> first place" applies to why did she follow Pettigrew from the 
> Albanian tavern (where she ran into him on her holiday) to her 
death 
> and service to Voldemort? What caused that old memory to come up in 
> the Pensieve was that he used the same sentence/question then as 
now 
> and the cause was Bertha's snoopiness then as now.
> 
> Speaking of Bertha's sevice to Voldemort, some brilliant person on 
> this list suggested that she provided him with more than 
information 
> -- let me do a Search for it:
> 
<snipping the most heinous, godawful image of Bertha giving life to 
slimy baby Voldemort, an image I hope JKR never decides she must 
visit upon us, which just about makes me sick even to imagine>  :-0
> 

I am still not all the way there, Catlady.  I almost buy the idea 
that Dumbledore's sadness is over recent events, not old events.  (At 
this point, Dumbledore doesn't KNOW Bertha is dead, although he 
suspects it, but OK, maybe he still feels sad about her 
disappearance).  But Dumbledore has no idea how Wormtail and 
Voldemort captured Bertha or know that she followed anyone anywhere-- 
we learn about it when Voldemort explains it to the Death Eaters.  So 
Dumbledore doesn't yet know enough to link the "Bertha following 
Snape/Sirius/whoever incident" long ago with the more recent "Bertha 
following Wormtail incident".

And that kissing Florence business -- that can't be linked up to 
recent events.  So, for whatever reason, this minor event of kissing 
and hexing has made it into a pensieve with hugely important things 
(Karkarov's trial, Bagman's trial, Crouch Jr.'s trial, Harry, Snape's 
report on the dark mark).  I'm still thinking that more is going on, 
particularly in light of the possibility that Bertha got a memory 
charm that caused her to forget whatever she saw long ago.

Cindy (wondering if the Pensieve has a delete feature for when old 
memories no longer matter)