[HPforGrownups] Re: Draco..wasLily/Snape

[Tandy, Heidi]

No: HPFGUIDX 25327

Sorry about not snipping the post- I can't on this blackberry...
Just a reminder, tho it has been said before- draco does raise his glass to
cedric. GoF clearly uses the word everyone. He does *not* to harry, but that
*is* different. 
Also, we know that lucius is critical of draco {scene from cos w/ borgin<
and abuses house elves. That is evidence that he might react negatively if
draco defied him. It's just part of the possibles...

-----Original Message-----
From: tillrules at aol.com <tillrules at aol.com>
To: HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com <HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri Aug 31 18:05:21 2001
Subject: Re: [HPforGrownups] Re: Draco..wasLily/Snape

Real-To:  tillrules at aol.com

In a message dated 8/31/2001 2:22:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
Koinonia2 at hotmail.com writes:

<< Tillrules also wrote:
 >He is excited to see Voldemort return.
 
 Again, what if he isn't?  He can't go around saying that.  

Why not? Again, there is no evidence of this theory of Draco only says this 
b/c his dad makes him.  It would be very easy for him to simply stay silent 
(which as I think someone said before the most likely response from Lucius
in 
hostile territory), but he goe sout of his way to confront Harry and say
that 
he told him he chose the wrong side, the first day they met.  Had he not 
wished to trumpet his happiness about the return of Voldemort, he simply 
could have sat sullenly in a corner.
 
 >Even the death of an innocent (Cedric) is not enough to lessen this 
 >happiness on his part.
 
 I wonder if Draco was really happy to see Cedric die. Draco might be 
 just as sad and afraid as every other kid at Hogwarts.  He just can't 
 show it.  
 
Again, there's no factual evidence to this and a lot of evidence that he's 
happy about what happened.  As I said above, he simply could have had no 
reaction in the final scenes.  He could have raised his glass to Cedric's 
name and explained it away as simply trying to "hide his true feelings" if 
any of his peers questioned him.  But he chose to make a statement and not 
raise his glass.  Also, note it is not the whole Slythierin table that 
doesn't raise their glasswes (I think this is the case, I don't have the
book 
in front of me), but JKR specifcally notes that Draco an dhis little group
of 
Slytherins don't.  Again, as leader of the group, he performs and action
that 
the others in his group, but not the entire house follows.

 >It would take some extreme & radical character changes to make his 
 >helping Harry possible and even more extreme circumstances to make 
 >it plausible.
 
 Sometimes it takes an extreme event to change a persons life.  We 
 still have 3 books to go!
  >>
True enough, but i cannot come up with a circumstance that would be 
sufficient.  Killing his family members, for example, may be enough, but I'm

not sure that's even enough to make him sympathetic enough to be likable.  
His decisin then would be revenge motivagted, not any change of heart.
Harry 
savuign him wouldmost likely lead to resentment, not change (given all of
the 
info we have so far) ala Snape.  A large body of fanfic aside, I cannot see
a 
plausible situation where he falls for someone romantically and reforms.
But 
that' s just me.


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