More Astrology was Re: Mars

Sat Sep 8 03:18:02 UTC 2001

No: HPFGUIDX 25744

Actually Barb believe it or not it's condensed from my
original notes for a astrology class that I was taking
at a junior college.  So it was actually both, first
typed in by hand then copy and pasted from my files to
here.  That said I'm afraid I will have to correct
something real quick.  Neptune is NOT the god of death
and the underworld.  Pluto/Hades was.  This one is
shorter but covers both planets/gods and their major
influences.

Neptune, in Roman religion and mythology, god of
water. He was presumably an indigenous god of
fertility, but in later times he was identified with
the Greek Poseidon, god of the sea. At his festival,
the Neptunalia (July 23), arbors were dedicated to
him.  Poseidon , in Greek religion and mythology, god
of the sea, protector of all waters. After the fall of
the Titans, Poseidon was allotted the sea. He was
worshiped especially in connection with navigation;
but as the god of fresh waters he also was worshiped
as a fertility god. In Thessaly and other areas he was
important as Hippios, god of horses, and was the
father of Pegasus. Poseidon was represented as
extremely powerful, with a violent and vengeful
disposition. He carried the trident, with which he
could split boulders and cause earthquakes. When
Laomedon failed to pay him for building the walls of
Troy, Poseidon sent a sea monster to ravage the Troad
and years later vengefully assisted the Greeks in the
Trojan War. His grudge against Odysseus is one of the
themes of the Odyssey. He was the husband of
Amphitrite, who bore him Triton, and by others he
fathered many more sons, who usually turned out to be
strong, brutal men (like Orion) or monsters (like
Polyphemus). The Romans identified him with Neptune.

PISCES: Pisces is associated with the element of
water, yin energy, negative polarity, the planet
Neptune, the feet and lymph glands, Friday, the
numbers two and six, the colors aquamarine and pale
green, fig and willow trees, platinum, and fish. 

Neptune: Visionary Dreamer
Neptune was discovered in 1846, after studies of the
irregularities in Uranus' orbit suggested that these
must be caused by the existence of an unknown planet.
Slightly larger than Uranus, Neptune takes 165 years
to travel around the Sun, from which it lies 4497
million kilometres. Neptune has two satellites, Triton
and Nereid. Triton, which orbits Neptune every six
days, is one of the largest Moons in the solar system.
In mythology, Neptune inherited his rulership of the
sea from the Greek god Poseidon - Neptune also looks
after lakes, rivers and pools. Water horses draw his
chariot, and he has a palace in the depths of the
ocean. It is said that Neptune transformed himself
into a stallion to court the beautiful mare Demeter -
perhaps this explains why Neptune is also said to rule
horse-racing!
Astrologically speaking, Neptune rules Pisces, that
most watery of signs, and is very much concerned with
the arts - music, poetry, dancing and so forth.
Positively expressed, Neptune provides the idealism
and vision in a natal chart, as well as imagination
and sensitivity. When afflicted, however, Neptune
contributes confusion, deceit, carelessness and
gullibility.
Because Neptune stays in one zodiac sign for
approximately 14 years, it is another of the planets,
like Uranus, which has a 'generation effect'.
Currently, no-one living can possibly have Neptune in
Pisces, Aries or Taurus. Neptune entered Aquarius late
in 1998, so babies born since then are our first
experience of how Neptune will act through this Uranus
ruled sign. We will be coming back to the generation
influence in future lessons, and we will then discuss
the influence of Neptune through the signs. However,
in natal astrology, unless Neptune is very powerfully
placed, we tend to concentrate far more on the house
position (individual to each person depending upon the
degree of their Ascendant Sign), and so that is what
we will be doing in this lesson.

Pluto, in Greek religion and mythology, god of the
underworld, son of Kronos and Rhea; also called Hades.
After the fall of the Titans, Pluto and his brothers
Zeus and Poseidon divided the universe, and Pluto was
awarded everything underground. There, with Persephone
as his queen, he ruled over Hades. Not only a god of
the dead, he is identified as a god of the earth's
fertility. The Romans derived their god of the
deadOrcus, Dis, or Dis Paterfrom Pluto.  Hades , in
Greek and Roman religion and mythology. 1. The ruler
of the underworld. 2. The world of the dead, ruled by
Pluto and Persephone, located either underground or in
the far west beyond the inhabited regions. It was
separated from the land of the living by the rivers
Styx [hateful], Lethe [forgetfulness], Acheron
[woeful], Phlegethon [fiery], and Cocytus [wailing].
The newly arrived dead were ferried across the Styx by
the avaricious old ferryman Charon, whom they paid
with the coin that was placed in their mouths when
they were buried. Unauthorized spirits who tried to
enter or leave Hades were challenged by the fearful
dog Cerberus. The honey cake that the Greeks buried
with the dead was intended to quiet him. All the dead
drank of the river of forgetfulness. The judges of the
deadMinos, Aeacus, and Rhadamanthusassigned to each
soul its appropriate abode. The virtuous and the
heroic were rewarded in the Elysian fields; wrongdoers
were sent to Tartarus; and most wandered as dull
shadows among fields of asphodel.

SCORPIO: Scorpio is associated with the element of
water, yin energy, negative polarity, the planet
Pluto, the sexual organs, Tuesday, the numbers two and
four, topaz, all dark shades of red, blackthorn trees,
plutonium, scorpions, and insects.

Pluto: Transformation & Change
Pluto was first seen by Clyde Tombaugh in 1930,
although astronomer Percival Lowell had previously
assumed that the planet existed on the basis of his
mathematical calculations. Roughly 3000 miles in
diameter, the planet's orbit is 17 degrees inclined to
the ecliptic, and it is some 3600 million miles from
the sun. Pluto completes an orbit of the sun once
every 248 years, and is therefore the third and final
planet that forms a 'generation effect' in the natal
chart. It's orbit is somewhat erratic, however, and
brings it very close to a collision with Neptune -
although an actual collision is thought highly
unlikely. So far, much about Pluto remains mysterious,
as no space probes have yet been able to reach it.
In astrology, Pluto is known as the planet of
transformation and change. Pluto was an agricultural
God who ruled over the underworld - it was to his land
of death beyond the river Styx that every living
creature was eventually transported. Pluto often wore
a helmet which rendered him invisible, and (probably
helped by the helmet!) was known as being a great
seducer. The planet that bears his name rules the sign
of Scorpio, and is connected with the sexual organs
and human reproduction. It is also concerned with with
the unconscious buried emotions, however, and whilst
it can encourage us to overcome obstacles, it can also
make us sly, critical, secretive, cruel.

Okay it was still a bit long but I hope it clears up
the confusion.

Danette

--- blpurdom at yahoo.com wrote:
> Yes, it's probably just that simple, as JKR
> professes to be leery of 
> astrology.  (Goodness, Danette, did you type out all
> that material 
> about Mars from memory, or cut and paste?)  
> 
> However, no one mentioned Neptune and its
> significance, which I 
> believe in this scene is as straightforward as Mars
> being the god of 
> war.  Neptune is the god of death and the
> underworld.  Trelawney 
> highlighting both Mars and Neptune means that she is
> implying that 
> both war and death are coming.  Which I suppose
> makes this another 
> possibly correct prediction of hers, but it's about
> as difficult as 
> predicting that the sun will rise tomorrow morning
> (for fans of The 
> Little Prince).  
> 
> --Barb

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