[HPforGrownups] Re: Wand Order Fix

Penny & Bryce pennylin at swbell.net
Mon Sep 10 22:44:18 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 25900

Hi again --

Amy Z wrote:

> Penny asked, plaintively:
> 
>  > But, I think the point is if *we,* with a little thought, could come
> up
>  > with several possible explanations for the wand order issue, why
>  > couldn't she or her editors have done the same thing?
> 
> Because she would have to change a MAJOR plot point:  what happened at
> Godric's Hollow.  All the theories involve someone besides Voldemort
> having been there, Voldemort having duelled someone else at the house,
> someone besides Voldemort having killed James and Lily (a plot twist
> to end all plot twists!), etc.

Nope!  The fix I liked best (and still prefer) is the one put forth by 
Trina.  That is: Harry so desperately wanted to see his father that 
night that he magically caused the images within the wand to reverse 
themselves so that his dad came out first.

 
> While I agree that James has been growing in importance in the books,
> I disagree with this:
> 
>  > In short though, Harry was *NOT* thinking about his mother that
> night as far as we know.  He *HAD*, however, been thinking about his
> father."
> 
> He *was* thinking of his mother, just a few pages back.  "...Voldemort
> was right -- his mother was not here to die for him this time . . . he
> was quite unprotected . . . "  It is not as vivid as the thoughts of
> his father (and the wish to keep his Patronus with him in the maze,
> which always tugs at my heart), but then, the text doesn't say he was
> thinking of her more than any other person, just any other woman.

Okay, she says grudginly, point taken. But, I still maintain that this 
scene could have been rewritten better.  Sounds like we agree on that 
much.  :--)

> 
> Furthermore, as much as I find the slight shift from a focus on Lily
> in 1 & 2 to one on James in 3 & 4 interesting from a
> psychological-development point of view, I think it likely that this
> shift (and this development) will not continue in a simple, linear
> way.  We know from Jo that we're going to learn a lot more about Lily,
> and we have strong hints that there is a connection between her
> magical abilities and Harry's (b/c of their eyes).  Harry is not done
> identifying with his mother; he's barely begun.

Oh, I know he isn't finished identifying with his mother by any means! 
But, I do think that at the time of GoF, he has a stronger bond with his 
father.  His father's best friend & his godfather, Sirius, has taken on 
a parenting-type role for him.  One of his father's other best friends 
was his mentor and favorite professor to date as best we can tell.  He's 
learned alot about his father, and as an adolescent male, I daresay he 
is wanting to model himself more after his father.  He's  mistaken 
himself for his father!  He's told again & again how much he looks like 
his father.  His patronus is his father's animagus form.  There's some 
very very strong connections between father & son by late in GoF.

Yes, he'll learn more about Lily (and I can't wait!).  But, as of the 
time of GoF, the original scene had more of an emotional impact for *me* 
than the way it was re-written.  And, I could explain it away easily 
enough with Trina's theory.  Her theory tied in very nicely with my own 
thoughts about his identification with his dad that night. It would, 
IMHO, have been more poetic if it had been explained in this way (or 
some other creative way designed by JKR that *didn't* involve 
re-arranging a major plot detail ... if Trina can think of a way it can 
be done, I have every confidence JKR could have).  That would have been 
preferable to the "Oops" (especially since correcting the "oops" was 
done rather covertly).

Penny

> 
> Amy Z
> 
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