Boggart
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Sat Sep 29 23:27:13 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 26912
Okay, several things to address and random theories to throw out:
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1) Are Boggart manifestations metaphorical?
Possibly. Lupin hints that Harry's boggart manifestation (a dementor)
is, by saying that it indicates his greatest fear is fear. However,
one might also argue that this could be specific to Dementors.
Dementors by their nature may be symbolic of fear (or depression or
whatever), but perhaps not all boggart manifestations are.
I offer a more specific, closely-related belief (read as: the same
thing in "Luke terms"): That boggart manifestations are metaphorical,
but to the extent that the target (the person who the boggart is
currently affecting) associates those abstract thoughts with a
concrete image. For example, Lupin may not be literally afraid of the
moon, but has come to associate the things he is afraid of (the
terrible things he might do as a werewolf, loss of control, pain of
transformation, social rejection, etc.) with the moon. If he had
associated these things with something else, such as, say, a sock (for
whatever illogical, unknown reason) then he would see a sock.
Basically, I am clarifying that I do not think the symbolism is
*inherent*, but created in the psyche of the target.
Neville's fear may not be truly Snape, but the reflection of his own
sense of inadequacy that Snape constantly reminds him of. He has come
to associate this fear with Snape. Obviously there is nothing
inherent in Snape that makes him literally symbolic of Neville's fear
(to anyone but Neville).
Under this system, Harry has come to associate whatever his greatest
fear is with the dementors and whether or not a dementor is inherently
symbolic (though potentially true) is irrelevant.
This, of course, will not apply to everyone. Some people, especially
certain children, have more concrete fears to begin with (Parvati's
mummy, Seamus's banshee). I actually have a hard time believing that
this is truly their greatest fear, but perhaps it is their most
conscious one, and hence somehow easier for the boggart to home in on.
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2) To what extent does a boggart manifestation take on the properties
of its real counterpart?
We know that Harry was affected by the boggart-dementor in the same
way as a real dementor would affect him.
We don't technically know that this is true of all boggart
manifestations, do we? (real question--I'm feeling too lazy to
scrutinize canon) It is quite possible that Harry himself
psychologically caused this to happen, moreso than it was an inherent
capability of boggarts.
Assuming it was an inherent capability of boggarts, then it could be
nonetheless limited by other factors. Perhaps it only can take on the
properties of its real counterpart so long as the target believes it
can. The more belief in and fear of the boggart, the more powerful
the boggart. Hence, Lupin has over time made himself relatively
immune to the boggart because he is not as afraid. Note the way he
tackles the boggart in a very casual, ho-hum manner. Or perhaps the
dementor scenario is one of a few special cases, because both their
powers are primarily psychological and therefore it is possible for
the boggart to emulate it. It would not, then, be able to
administrate the kiss or do anything similarly concrete. Nor would it
have concrete abilities held by other manifestations, like the venom
of spiders or even the ability to cause physical harm.
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3) What really destroys a boggart?
It is not the Riddikulus curse itself, as Lupin states (and as Dave
Hardenbook was pointing out in his Flint question).
But is it necessarily *really* laughter either? I think it is
entirely possible that Lupin told the students that because it is much
more concrete and easy to grasp that way, when, IMO it seems to make
much more sense that the way to destroy a boggart is simply not to
fear it. So laughter works if its genuine, but wouldn't if forced (it
is not the act, but the emotion behind it). But laughter wouldn't be
necessary either, provided the absence of fear was there.
-Luke
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