Percy -- Cho
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Fri Apr 5 23:42:11 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 37494
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Penny Linsenmayer <pennylin at s...> wrote:
> Hi everyone --
>
> Wow! I'm overwhelmed with all the great discussions we've been
having & am sorry to be jumping in a bit late on a few things.
>
> PERCY:
> Mary (who also said Percy *Had* to be EVIL) said:
<<<<<I really havn't been able to warm to his character at all (not
> for lack of trying!) He really is very very power hungry ("Prefects
> Who Gained Power") and I don't hold up much hope for his
redemption.>>>>
>
> Being ambitious or seeking power isn't *evil* though. Plenty of
people are highly ambitious & motivated for very good reasons.
Perhaps Percy has a sweeping vision for vast reforms in the Wizarding
World society if he achieves his goal of becoming Minister of Magic
(I believe he intimates that he has ideas for changes at one point in
the series). Being power-hungry solely for the *status,* albeit not
particularly praise-worthy, hardly constitutes *evil* though.
>
Perhaps I wasn't clear here. What I was getting at really, was that
he will, IMO, be completely blinded by this hunger and be unable
to "see the wood through the trees" so to speak, when it comes to the
battle between good and evil in the Ministry during OoP.
> As for redemption, why does Percy need to be *redeemed*? He's not
a bad, evil person. He's a good guy with some flaws (like most of
us) IMO.>
Well really I was thinking that he would be redeemed in my eyes
only. As in, how I will be able to finally convince my gut instinct
that he is indeed *not* evil.
> <<<<From his sheep like following of Crouch Sr. to his mere lack of
> ability to 'let his hair down' he really hasn't shown any ability
to
> survive in the real world, let alone in a war situation.>>>>>
>
>> The ability/desire to "let one's hair down" is a prerequisite for
a
successful life? Hmmm...
Well I do believe that this ability is essential for a balanced and
*healthy* life, but I didn't say succesful. IMO, Someone with this
ability indicates that they are an emotionally healthy individual.
Perhaps if Percy was capable of "letting his hair down" I would be
more convinced of his stability andhis ability not to be lured/duped
into doing evil.
It's possible also that I would find him to be a more likable
character in general.
>
> RED HERRING: Barb and John both commented that it strikes them as
too "pat" for Percy to be duped into unwitting betrayal of the Good
Guys as a result of his ambition. I agree. I tend to think that
Percy is meant to mislead us into this conclusion. The subtle
evidence of Percy's concern for his family points, IMO, to Percy not
becoming a pawn of the Dark Side. I think Ron's remarks are meant to
set up this very thing (red herring). But then, I have another
Weasley in mind as likely candidate for becoming an unwitting pawn of
the forces of Evil so ....
>
I wouldn't be so quick to jump to the conclusion that JKR is using
Percy as a Red Herring or that it would be too predictable if he
became a pawn for V. I think the general concensus is that Percy
is , underneath it all, a likable character (not my opinion of
course) so I think that to make him go over to th Dark Side would
really be quite a shocker for most people.
> CHO --
>
> Uncmark: "If Harry had been a little quicker and asked first, I
think Cho would have accepted his invite to the Yule Ball."
>
> Rita: "I'm sure she would have, too. She seemed genuinely
disappointed that he asked after she had already accepted Cedric's
invitation."
>
> I maintain that she was sorry to disappoint Harry & was very kind
in turning him down, but that is not at all the same thing as being
sorry that she had already accepted Cedric's invitation. It seems
*highly* unlikely to me that she would have continued to date Cedric
& develop a relationship with him after the Yule Ball if she were
wishing, pre-Ball, that she could have been free to go with someone
else (Harry). I also think it's pretty likely that Harry just
didn't notice that there was a developing (or even long-standing)
relationship between Cedric & Cho prior to the Yule Ball (there's no
evidence for this of course ... but we've seen that Harry doesn't
always *see* everything in clear detail). He notices them holding
hands in the corridors after the Ball ... but it's at least possible
this was going on beforehand but Harry only had eyes for Cho. In
any case, the Yule Ball was definitely more than a one-time date for
Cedric & Cho, and it stands to reason that she had some romantic
interest in him before the Ball for things to have developed as they
did afterwards. IMO of course. :--)>>>
Yes, this is a possibility. Cho and Cedric *did* seem very close,
but then it is possible to like more than one person at a time. Not
to ship here but.... Harry and Cho would be soooo very very cute!
As for Cho being disappointed at having to let Harry down, the same
explanation could be used for her and Cedric's post ball
relationship... she simply didn't want to let him down, especially
during the tournament.
-Mary-
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