Sleeping woman/marriage/Snape vs Hermione/Ron's fate/SHIP
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Sun Apr 7 17:12:14 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 37539
Boggles wrote:
>Having said that, I agree with the person who noted that, strictly
speaking, toads are not traditional Libido Beasts. I would also
add that if Trevor represents anyone's libido, it's Neville's, not
Hermione's.<
The toad is the libido beast in Brothers Grimm story "The Three
Feathers." The simpleton Prince, a very Neville-like character,
finds a magical trapdoor and follows it into a cave under the
earth, where he finds a whole colony of toads, one of which is
eventually transformed into a beautiful princess who becomes
his wife.
Since Trevor the Toad is male, I think he's more likely to
represent Hermione's libido than Neville's.
Of course the flaw in this sort of analysis is that it can be used to
prove almost anything, as Tabouli showed us in her hilarious
frog prince post. On that note, one additional Frog Prince/Neville
parallel: the Princess got her frog after dropping a ball down a
well; the ball-shaped Neville gets his toad after dropping out of a
window. :-)
---
On marriage and the wizarding world:
Wynnde writes:
>Certainly all the children who attend Hogwarts seem to come
from complete
>family units (we don't know of any one-parent families or
illegitimate children, do we?
We have at least two failed marriages: Tom Riddle's parents,
and Hagrid's parents.
On Snape vs Hermione:
Rohit Columbian Texan wrote:
> anyone wondering why Snape seems to single out Hermione
so much as
> the target for his anger? (snip) I mean, Snape seems like the
>kindof professor who would like a know-it-all student like
>Hermione, especially since she continues to be respectful and
>thoughtful towards him,
and Catlady added:
>It was so incredibly obvious to me that she was trying to win
Professor Snape's approval.
>Surely that is the motivation that he would approve highly of!
Snape's message to her may be the same as Draco's: "Keep
that big bushy head down, Granger." As in Draco's case, we
don't know whether this is a manifestation of prejudice or a
disguised effort to protect her from it. Of course Hermione only
wants approval but perhaps her approval-seeking bothers
him...was Snape trying for approval when he joined Voldemort?
On Rons' fate:
Grey Wolf wrote:
>I am one of the devout followers of SACRIFICE (although I
prefer my own
>acronym, RICK'S THE BOSS), because it's the only way Ron
>can actually fullfil his wish (see mirrow of Erised):
I had an awful, awful thought this morning: what if Ron's vision in
the Mirror of Erised, "he sees himself standing alone, the best of
any of them" foreshadows that Ron will live but all his brothers
are going to die? Would that placate all the people who think R/H
H/G is just too sappy? Probably not. ;-)
Another little Shippy note: it occurs to me that Penny's favorite
theory,Farmer in the dell (FITD), has already been set up, though
not with Penny's preferred cast. Ginny likes Harry, who likes Cho,
who likes Cedric, who's dead.
I agree though, that the romantic complications are mostly going
to serve as comic relief with occasional pathos, and will not
assume center stage.
Pippin
happily welcoming Wyndde to the group and making room for
her in the LOVESLAVE stateroom of the good ship LOLLIPOPS.
Mind the stalactites.
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