Sleeping woman/marriage/Snape vs Hermione/Ron's fate/SHIP

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Sun Apr 7 17:12:14 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 37539

Boggles wrote:
>Having said that, I agree with the person who noted that, strictly 
speaking, toads are not traditional Libido Beasts.  I would also 
add that if Trevor represents anyone's libido, it's Neville's, not 
Hermione's.<

The toad is the libido beast in Brothers Grimm story "The Three 
Feathers."  The simpleton Prince, a very Neville-like character, 
finds a magical trapdoor and follows it into a cave under the 
earth, where he finds a whole colony of toads, one of which is 
eventually transformed into a beautiful princess who becomes 
his wife. 

Since Trevor  the Toad is male, I think he's more likely to 
represent Hermione's libido than Neville's.
Of course the flaw in this sort of analysis is that it can be used to 
prove almost anything, as Tabouli showed us in her hilarious 
frog prince post.  On that note, one additional Frog Prince/Neville 
parallel: the Princess got her frog after dropping a ball down a 
well; the ball-shaped Neville gets his toad after dropping out of a 
window. :-)
---
On marriage and the wizarding world:
Wynnde writes:

>Certainly all the children who attend Hogwarts seem to come 
from complete 
>family units (we don't know of any one-parent families or 
illegitimate children, do we?

We have at least two failed marriages: Tom Riddle's parents, 
and Hagrid's parents.

On Snape vs Hermione:
Rohit Columbian Texan wrote:
> anyone wondering why Snape seems to single out Hermione 
so much as
> the target for his anger? (snip) I mean, Snape seems like the 
>kindof professor who would like a know-it-all student like 
>Hermione,  especially since she continues to be respectful and 
>thoughtful  towards him,

and Catlady added:
>It was so incredibly obvious to me that she was trying to win 
Professor Snape's approval. 
>Surely that is the motivation that he would approve highly of!

Snape's message to her may be the same as Draco's: "Keep 
that big bushy head down, Granger."  As in Draco's case, we 
don't know whether this is a manifestation of prejudice or a 
disguised effort to protect her from it. Of course Hermione only 
wants approval but   perhaps her approval-seeking bothers 
him...was Snape trying for approval when he joined Voldemort?

On Rons' fate:
Grey Wolf wrote:
>I am one of the devout followers of SACRIFICE (although I 
prefer my own 
>acronym, RICK'S THE BOSS), because it's the only way Ron 
>can actually fullfil his wish (see mirrow of Erised): 

I had an awful, awful thought this morning: what if Ron's vision in 
the Mirror of Erised, "he sees himself standing alone, the best of 
any of them" foreshadows that  Ron will live but all his brothers 
are going to die? Would that placate all the people who think R/H 
H/G is just too sappy? Probably not. ;-) 

Another little Shippy note: it occurs to me that Penny's favorite 
theory,Farmer in the dell (FITD), has already been set up, though 
not with Penny's preferred cast. Ginny likes Harry, who likes Cho, 
who likes Cedric, who's dead.

I agree though, that the romantic complications are mostly going 
to serve as comic relief with occasional pathos, and will not 
assume center stage. 

Pippin
happily welcoming Wyndde to the group and making room for 
her in the LOVESLAVE stateroom of the good ship LOLLIPOPS. 
Mind the stalactites.





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