Grey Lady / Weasleys /Lily's Parents? / Avada Kedavra / Crouch /CapitaLetter

catlady_de_los_angeles catlady at wicca.net
Tue Apr 9 04:58:50 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 37606

Snape later.

Petra wrote:

> But nothing about the Grey Lady's portrayal in the film supports
> the theory that she may be Voldemort's mother, IIRC. The Grey 
> Lady's costume is definitely not of the time period befitting a 
> woman who could have given birth to Tom Riddle, Jr. near the 
> beginning of the last century. 

While I do not trust the accuracy of ANY costumes in the film, note 
that many of the pedestrians on Diagon Alley in "now" or 1991 are 
wearing their Dickens Faire costumes, others their Renaissance Faire 
costumes. 

Mecki wrote:

> Twin girls are born (it is not unusual, once twins are in the 
> family)- Ingrid and Jennifer. Only Jenny  survives. When F&G see
> the baby they are told *this is Jenny*, but they say Ginny- and it
> stuck.  This would explain, how overprotective Molly is with Ginny.
> One of my twin-daughters died shortly after her birth and it took a
>  long time and hard work, not to see her grave every time her 
> twin-sister had as much as a cold or a nose-bleed. I'm still 
> overprotective, but I know why, so I try to work against it. For 
> Molly it would be the second child-death, and that is absolutely 
> impossible to cope with.

Oh, Mecki, *ouch* (That was an expression of sympathy for you). Let's 
spare Molly the *second* child death by assuming that the death of 
"Daisy" was enough to make her extra overprotective of her youngest, 
and only surviving girl. The only reason for assuming "David" to be a 
boy was only for people who want Ron to be a seventh son.

Rohit wrote:

> Ginny's full name COULD be Imogene. 

I prefer Iphigenia, except that both Iphigenia and Imogen conflict 
with the notion that those Weasleys give their children plain 
ordinary Muggle-style names.

Elfun Debbie wrote:

> all add up to a pair I can't trust not to succumb to the lure of 
> easy financing. I realize my reading of the twins is highly 
> idiosyncratic, and maybe a bit subversive, as my experiences that 
> led me to the Soon to be Evil! Twins theory are probably quite 
> different from JKR's;

Yes, but. Succumbing to the lure of easy financing (I'm only 
*borrowing* the money from the employees's pension fund: I'll pay it 
back as soon as my scheme inevitably makes a fortune) isn't the same 
as joining the Death Eaters... 

Rohit wrote:

> Anyone else besides me curious as to what happened to Lily's 
> parents. (snip) Just wondering why THEY are not taking care of 
> Harry, and wondering if whatever happened to them maybe added fuel 
> to Petunia's resentment of the wizarding world

They must be dead, because Dumbledore said the Dursleys are the only 
family Harry has left. I don't know why they'd dead so young. From 
the way Petunia spoke of them, I don't get the impression that she 
particularly minded losing them.

Charis Julia wrote:

> Well, take the granting of new powers to the Aurors.
> Powers to kill. 

I'm pretty sure that they were already allowed to kill. What was new 
was the permission to kill *via Avada Kedavra*. I wish I knew why 
Avada Kedavra -- I wish I knew why the Unforgiveable Curses are 
unforgiveable. It might have something to do with what makes the Dark 
Arts dark. 

>  But it still doesn't alter the fact that Crouch using his power
> and positioning to get his son off would *not* have been right.

It seems to me that there is a general mind-set in Anglo-American 
culture that any judge *should* recuse himerself from judging hiser 
own child, parent, spouse, or sibling. Because to show mercy to such 
a person would be considered corrupt (unlike some other cultures 
which view family loyalty as far more important than law or justice). 
But to *fail* to show mercy to such a person would be considered a 
disgraceful lack of normal human affection (presumably unlike some 
other cultures, maybe Sparta or Roman, which cosider 'normal human 
affection' to be a shameful weakness.)

> Remember Sirius's comment about looking at how a man treats his 
> subordinates to understand what he's really like?

I remain alarmed that JKR put that remark into Sirius's mouth in a 
chapter in which pretty much all else Sirius said turned out to be 
pretty much wrong. Is she trying to cast doubt on that truism?

Weaver asked:

> Why do Muggles get a capital letter?

All the words that JKR made up are capitalized and the words that JKR 
believed to be words that already existed aren't. I find that 
annoying, as I doubt that the wizard folk would capitalize the few 
words invented by wizards -- surely they would not be willing to 
admit that such words as 'wizard' (no, Grey Wolf, 'warlock' is not 
capitalised: 'Harry ate breakfast each morning in the Leaky Cauldron, 
where he liked watching the other guests: funny little witches from 
the country, up for a day's shopping; venerable-looking wizards 
arguing over the latest article in Transfiguration Today; wild-
looking warlocks; raucous dwarfs;') were invented by Muggles.





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