Crouch Jr, Voldemort and divination (was:Weatherby)/ Phoenixes

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Melody:
> Chapter One definitely takes place before the Quidditch Cup, unless Harry is 
> having dreams of the future, but it would make more sense if the 
> conversation between Voldemort and Wormtail took place after they'd seen 
> Crouch Jr.
> 
> The conversation in chapter one seems to indicate that Voldemort has seen 
> the younger Crouch already, but from what Barty Crouch says in chapter 35, 
> Voldemort didn't come to see him until after the Quidditch cup.


I think it *does* make sense, if we bear in mind that he has already 
extracted information from Bertha. Although how he was so sure that Jr was 
going to prove so loyal is not made clear. Young Crouch did go to Azkaban, 
but protesting, not in martyrial style like Mrs Lestrange. I suppose we have 
assume that Bertha didn't just find out that he was at his father's house, 
but must have heard in the conversation between him and Winky something which 
implied his loyalty to Voldemort.

And then again, there is this thing called divination, which gets a  very bad 
press, but presumably is used in the WW. (This came to my mind yesterday when 
I was writing about Lucius, whom I can just see indulging in some kind of 
unspeakable-mancy). Others have suggested that Voldemort sometimes seems to 
be able to read minds and he claims he always knows when people are lying. Do 
these imply some sort of ability to divine intentions? An analogy with 
Dumbledore's abilities to know things no reasonable person should?

Am I right in thinking that Harry experiences the *feeling* that Dumbledore, 
Voldemort and Snape all have to some extent the ability to look inside his 
mind? (Or is this just the projection of a guilty conscience?)

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Uncmark:

>Could you see Harry coming out of a great battle either inheriting 
>Fawkes or more intriguing Fawkes gives Harry an egg (We don't know 
>Fawkes is male or female.)

I'm afraid that I can see the former. I'm very much afraid that Dumbledore is 
not going to survive the series and that Harry, more importantly, is going to 
have to learn to go on without him.

But you've managed to bring us round to the subject of reproduction again, a 
topic which seems to be ubiquitous on this list at the moment! BTW, as Fawkes 
if presumably named after Guy Fawkes, I've always assumed he was male.
Of course in mythology, where there was only one phoenix, reproduction wasn't 
an issue (and presumably the bird was genderless). Do Potterverse phoenixes 
reproduce, or merely resurrect?

In mild curiosity,

Eloise
(who is becoming inreasingly worried that at this rate, she won't survive the 
series, either)


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