"Get The Golden Egg" Plot Hole!

[grey_wolf_c]

No: HPFGUIDX 37931

I wrote:
> "To be able to accio an object, you must be able to see it 
> or be VERY familiar with it."   -Grey Wolf

To which Jacey answered:
> I have one problem with that. What about when Mrs. Weasly accio'ed 
> the toffees from Fred and George's persons? She probably wasn't 
> familiar with them and definitely couldn't see see. Perhaps that was 
> different because she was so close. You'll notice that when Harry
> summons his firebolt to him he says "accio 
> firebolt" but when Mrs. weasly used the charm she just said "accio."  
> Also, when Harry was practicing the charm earlier, I *think* he was 
> only saying "accio." Perhaps when a person is far away from the 
> object they need to say it's name, or maybe Harry just felt like 
> adding the word "firebolt" after "accio" because he felt like it, 
> with no real significance. Possibly saying the name out loud helps a
> person get a better mental image of it.
> 
> -Jacey

The last time this was discussed, I was in your potition, and answered 
with the same exact example: the accio of Mrs. Weasley. The only thing 
that bugs me about it is that it breaks the most fundamental rule: to 
know what you're accioning. They way I would have done it (if I had the 
power to do so) is by accioning the bottom of the pocket (which I know 
exists), thus making all the things fall from the pocket when this is 
reversed.

On the other hand, if you're pretty powerful (which Mrs. Weasley is), 
maybe knowing the aproximate size of the objets you could accio it even 
if you don't see it (more or less "I expect something the size of a big 
marble: I see it poking through the material"). Of course, if size and 
shape is enough, why doesn't that disqualify my previous post? Too many 
eggs of the same size and shape, and none of the champions are powerful 
enough to accio all of them (not to speack of the dragon who, seeing 
his eggs fly to the magician would promptly bake him), and plainly too 
far away in the case of the cup (distance could only be overcomed by 
extreme familiarity), for example.

I agree with your theory of the name-calling: it is only to provide 
further focus on what you're doing: to help think of the shape and size 
of the broomstick, Harry says it's name.

Hope that helps,

Grey Wolf