Barty Crouch Jnr

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No: HPFGUIDX 38094

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "lucky_kari" <lucky_kari at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Ben Leigh" <ben.leigh at c...> wrote:
> > In answer to Melanie's question,
> > 
> >   Do we know whether or not Barty Crouch, Jr was a slytherin?  I 
> can't remember.
> > 
> > If we refer towards the end of GoF, Dumbledore says "Its not 
> > what makes a wizard, but what  one chooses to become, your 
> > dementor has destroyed a pure-blood as old as any, and look what 
> > he chose to make of his life."
> > 
> > My idea of the sorting hat, though highly magical, I don't think 
> > can predict the future. From the little we know about Barty 
> > Crouch Jnr, he was talented, ambitious and hard working so a 
> > possible house may have been Ravenclaw or Hufflepuff.

> Oh, Crouch Jr. was definitely a Ravenclaw, imho. Well, he should 
> have been. I actually think he was a Slytherin. He had to have 
> been in quite close contact with the usual Slytherin suspects to 
> have become a Death Eater by the age of 17/18. His father is 
> Slytherin from head to toe (as opposed to Draco - that 
> unSlytherinish kid who somehow blundered his way into that house.) 
> Crouch Jr. had Slytherin attributes, though I expect he would have 
> been a better Ravenclaw, and the family thing, combined with 
> Crouch Jr.'s inherited belief in Slytherin as the best house, 
> might have tipped him into Slytherin over Ravenclaw.
> 
> But look at his academic performance and the way he takes to 
> teaching after more than a decade under Imperius in his bedroom. 
> Definite Ravenclaw material there. Totally wasted.

Crouch, Jr. definitely seems like more of a Ravenclaw than a 
Slytherin.  And I don't see his dad being a Slytherin--it seems 
unlikely he could have gotten far in politics with that background 
(or if his son had been put in that house and people got wind of 
it), with the prejudices in the wizarding world, and he was on a 
track for the Minister of Magic when his career was derailed by his 
son being an accused DE.  It wouldn't have been hard for DEs to 
recruit Ravenclaws, though--in fact, I think they probably would 
have been prime targets, as extremely bright people.  Crouch, Jr. 
isn't a Slytherin at heart because his ambition isn't for himself as 
much as for his master--he speaks at the end of being honored by 
Voldemort, but it seems almost like a afterthought.

I'm not sure where you get the idea that Draco Malfoy isn't a 
Slytherin at heart.  He's nasty, selfish, ambitious, and he'll do 
anything to achieve an end.  Just because he's not too cautious or 
prudent doesn't mean anything; if anything, it's clear because of 
this that he's definitely no Ravenclaw (the only class in which we 
know he excels is Potions, making him a kind of one-song-Sue), and 
he clearly isn't hard-working enough to be a Hufflepuff, let alone 
brave enough to be a Gryffindor (he's quaking in his boots in the 
Forbidden Forest).  The hat knew before it had touched his head.  
He's right where he belongs.

--Barb

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