Lupin the ESE, Pettigrew's debt was re: Lupin the brave

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Thu Aug 1 22:03:24 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 41987

Dicey:
>>So yeah, it appears that when Lupin runs to the Shrieking 
Shack, it'snot because he thinks Sirius is about to kill Harry, it's 
because hethinks Sirius is about to kill Peter, perhaps 
wrongfully.  And he'slikely worried that Harry might take revenge 
on the wrong person.

--Dicey, who still likes LYCANTHROPE because it's gloriously 
creepy<<


I didn't want to tie LYCANTHROPE aka Evil!Lupin into the bravery 
discussion, since there are only a few of us clear-eyed enought 
to see Remus for what he really is <g>. According to the 
EverSoEvil poll, people are  more willing to suspect even  Trevor 
the Toad of harboring evil in his dark amphibian heart than our 
long-suffering Wolf. :p 

But now that you mention it...according to LYCANTHROPE Lupin 
rushes out to the Willow to get his hands on Peter. He does 
*not* want Sirius and Peter comparing notes, and he does not 
want Sirius cleared. He's perfectly happy to have Peter killed 
though, once the rat has admitted that Voldemort's supporters 
think he deserves it.  It is especially chilling to consider the 
climax of the Shack Scene in that light, with Harry standing up to 
Sirius, his friend, and Lupin, his enemy. I always wondered, long 
before I thought of suspecting Lupin, about JKR's choice of 
words in describing that scene:

**"NO!" Harry yelled. He ran forward, placing himself in front of 
Pettigrew, facing the wands.**

That "facing the wands" places the emphasis on the physical 
danger that Harry is in, drawing the readers' attention to the 
threat that Sirius or Lupin might curse him. It struck me as odd, 
because at that point I didn't think Sirius would still  harm Harry 
to get at Pettigrew, and surely good!Lupin wouldn't let him.  Ah, 
but if Lupin is a DE, then Harry was in far more danger than he 
realized.

Pettigrew's life debt to Harry is then correspondingly greater. I do 
think that if Lupin is a DE, then Pettigrew knows about it. 
Pettigrew does not plead with Lupin to spare him, though he 
begs everyone else. Instead he questions why Sirius didn't let 
Lupin in on the secret-keeper switch, directing Lupin's attention 
to Sirius's distrust of him.

 Voldemort would  learn, from Lupin, all the details of Pettigrew's 
escape, including the Life Debt.  Voldemort is definitely arrogant 
enough to take Pettigrew back in spite of whatever misgivings he 
has. After all, Snape's life debt to James Potter didn't save him. 
Besides, subverting a Life Debt would seem the sort of 
perversity that appeals to LV. 

There's corroboration of this from Dumbledore. He says, "I'm 
very much mistaken if Voldemort wants his servant in the debt of 
Harry Potter," which has a slight  but IMO very significantly 
different meaning than "if Voldemort wants *a* servant in the 
debt of Harry Potter." 

 Lupin's farewell to Peter is quite chilling:

**"You should have realized," said Lupin quietly, "if Voldemort 
didn't kill you, we would."***

"We" being the Death Eaters, that is...(shiver)

Pippin





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