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catlady_de_los_angeles catlady at wicca.net
Sun Aug 4 06:39:18 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 42097

Aldrea wrote:

<< When Draco "tried to make friends" with Harry, he did so by 
insulting the first real friend Harry had ever had. And, when 
looking at the text and thinking about Draco's character as we know 
it( thus far), the *only* reason he went to see Harry was because 
everyon was "saying all down the train that Harry Potter's in this 
compartment". >>

Before that scene on the Hogwarts Express, there was the scene at 
Madam Malkin's robe shop, where Harry and Draco were standing on 
adjacent chairs to have their hems pinned up. In the robe shop, 
Draco tried to make friends with Harry without knowing who Harry 
was. Draco did a *very* poor job of trying to make friends, 
boasting about his family and not even pretending sympathy at 
hearing that both Harry's parents were dead, but he tried. 

Ginny Powell wrote:

<< Do we know how old Rita is; maybe she was in Slytherin with 
Snape? >>

In GoF, when Skeeter dragged Harry into Filch's janitor's closet, 
when she tested her Quick-Quotes Quill, it wrote "Attractive blonde 
Rita Skeeter, 42". It was lying about "attractive" and telling the 
truth about "blonde", so I deduce that her age was At Least 42, 
therefore her birth year was no later than 1952. It seems any 
Skeeter-Snape relationship must have been AFTER Hogwarts.

Grey Wolf wrote:

<< My answer (and please note this is part of my theory) is that 
this "ancient" magic groups all the spells that, for some reason 
or another, have not been used for quite some time, for whatever 
reasons. >>

Roo replied:

<< I always interpreted the "ancient magic" alluded to in HP as 
referring to the most basic primeval forces from which all magic 
stems. (snip) His insistence that it was love, rather than magic, 
that saved and protected Harry, indicates that there are things more 
powerful than the magic that is used by wizards. >>

I agree with what I quoted from Roo. "Ancient magic" *must* be more 
than obsolete old historical spells, so I believe that it is the 
magic that existed before there were witches and wizards, or even 
humans. I disagree with the part of Roo's theory that wandless magic 
done by children feeling strong emotion is "ancient magic" -- that 
isn't ancient ENOUGH.

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHETHER THE UK edition of FB gives the critters' 
sizes in centimeters and kilograms instead of inches and pounds?

Grey Wolf wrote:

<< the love shield spell, which could stop even the normally 
unstopable AK, but which required a human sacrifice to make it 
work >>

That was in a fic that I read on ffnet back in 2000. I can't remember 
the title or the author, but the love shield spell was named the Amor 
Fati spell.

Amanda wrote:

<< But if Jan is right, and there is a charm or spell that can 
transmute a willing and loving death into a powerful protection, 
I can see another way Dumbledore could exit. A very likely way. >>

Yes, that occurs in (SPOILER WARNING!) R. J. Anderson's Snape/Maudie 
trilogy. It's on SugarQuill and other places.

Olivia Grey wrote:

<<  made me wonder if perhaps Harry somehow wouldn't be tempted by 
Voldemort into accepting a "normal life" instead of fufilling his 
destiny to destroy him. (snip) It would make an interesting fan 
fiction though.;) >>

Yes, that occurs in  Barb's trilogy on schnoogle.com: HP & the 
Psychic Serpent, HP & the Time of Good Intentions, HP & the Triangle 
Prophecy.






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