multiple-heirs/secrative Ollivander; WAS:Why Wasn't Hagrid Cleared?

muniloopin muniloopin at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 7 10:25:44 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 42247

Grey Wolf wrote:

>For most people, there could be any number of Heirs going around 
>(just check the list.The listees have worked up lots of theories to 
>have even more heirs running around).

The meaning of "heir" according to webster is:

1 : one who inherits or is entitled to inherit property
2 : one who inherits or is entitled to succeed to a hereditary rank, 
title, or office <heir to the throne>
3 : one who receives or is entitled to receive some endowment or 
quality from a parent or predecessor.

So, a heir is likely to be a descendant but a descendant is not always 
a heir. for the 3rd meaning (or in some cases even the 2nd), even a 
direct lineage is not necessary. a "true heir" is probably the 
descendant who is gifted with the same qualities as the ancestor in 
question. so though it is heighly probable that there are many 
"descendants" of the founders running around, there need not be any 
"true heir". 

I think that IF harry turns out to be a descendant of Gryffindor (and 
it seems like he would), JKR will HAVE to make him the heir of 
Slytherin as well - otherwise the whole theme of the books would be 
different. I suspect that the fact that Harry COULD open the chamber 
of secret is a hint to us that he IS after all the heir. The most 
powerful counter arguement to this is that Dumbledore said that Riddle 
was the last remaining descendant of Slytherin...either Dumbedore does 
not know about Harry's ancestory or Harry is a "heir" but not a direct 
descendant. 


>Strangely enough, one of the few people that might now who Voldemort 
>is is Ollivander, since he knows the wand that he sold him. Before 
>you ask, though, there are two ways out of this. Voldemort may have 
>bought the wand just before iniciating the Reign of Terror, when he 
>was not yet persecuted by justice (in which case Ollivander doesn't 
>know), or Dumbledore told Ollivander when he was looking for 
>information about Voldemort, in this case the sort of wand he uses.

it seems to me that both Ollivander and Dumbledore are extra-MOM 
entities. I mean that both seem to be autonomous bodies who do not 
necessarily or always tow the ministry line. I can see that wand 
makers may have some kind of proffessional code of conduct to not 
reveal many things they would know in course of their work.

muniloopin





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