Godric's Hollow/Godric Gryffindor any relation?
erisedstraeh2002
bdmorrp at budget.state.ny.us
Wed Aug 7 14:55:13 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 42256
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:
> Jennifer writes:
>
> > I was just thinking about this similarity in names. . Was
Godric's
> Hollow named after Godric Gryffindor? Is there any canon evidence
of this,
> or is this just thrown in to make us wonder?
and Richelle responds:
> I think it is. There's no direct canon (that I know of) to support
it, but
> how many Godrics can there be?
now me:
I read in one of JKR's interviews that her editor (who she referred
to as "brilliant") had not noticed that there is a relationship
between Godric Gryffindor and Godric's Hollow. So I would take that
as direct canon to support that there is a relationship!
In a post I did yesterday (#42191), I provide some fascinating info I
found on St. Godric which I think shows many parallels to Harry and
James (I'm still waiting for an on-the-board response, although I
have received several nice off-the-board notes!). I think there is
some sort of protection inherent in Harry's bloodline, and I think
it's because he is Gryffindor's descendant. One of the stories about
St. Godric involves him protecting a stag from hunters seeking to
kill it - as baby Harry is protected from death by *something*
(either his mother's sacrifice or something we have yet to find out
about). Perhaps this is why Voldemort refers to Lily's sacrifice
as "old magic?" Perhaps it only works in certain places, like
Godric's Hollow? Moreover, St. Godric's hermitage is protected by
a "well-nigh impenetrable brushwood of thorms and briars" which to me
is a strong parallel to the privet hedge, which offers a protection
when Harry is with the Dursleys that Voldemort refers to as "ancient
magic" (once again, the protection only works in a certain place).
In an interview, JKR said that Harry won't know "for a little while
the *whole truth* about why he is protected as long as he lives with
his family," so we know there's more to this than we've found out so
far. And when Harry needs protection from the dementors, he conjures
a stag with the "expecto patronus" charm, which was James' animagus
and was also the animal St. Godric protected from the hunters (plus
the Medieval Latin etymology of patronus is "patron saint").
In another interview (I just love trying to piece this together -
thanks to Aberforth's Goat for the great interview compilation!), JKR
said that "Book 4 is the end of an era for Harry. He's been very
protected until now." If my "protection is in the bloodline" theory
is accurate, then does this mean that Harry's lost some of his
protection now that his blood is in Voldemort? But why would
Dumbledore look triumphant at this (I refuse to believe he's a
baddie!)?
Where my theory falls down, however (and I'd love any thoughts on
this), is - if the protection is in the bloodline, why was Voldemort
able to kill James in Godric's Hollow? Was James perhaps killed
elsewhere? I read a neat piece on the Lexicon about that theory,
which notes the look of surprise on Lupin's face when Harry tells him
that he's heard his father's voice when the dementors approach, and
also notes that we don't see James in the scene in the film that JKR
added herself. But then I think about how at the end of PoA, Sirius
says that he saw Harry's parents' bodies (*plural*) when he went to
their destroyed house. Seems a bit farfetched to think that James
was killed elsewhere and then brought back to the Godric's Hollow
house, but in this universe, anything's possible!
Phyllis
who's dying to read the next 3 books but will be very sad not to have
any more to look forward to
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