[HPforGrownups] Is Snape safe?/It wuz Snape

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> Marc writes:
> 
> We were all wondering what Snape's task was, and some think it was to go
> back and spy on Voldemort. I think that's not possible anymore, because of
> his actions in SS. Don't you think that Voldemort, through Quirrel, would
> know about Snape trying to help Harry and not him if Snape was stil a loyal
> DE? 


All Voldemort knew was that Snape prevented *Quirrell* from killing Harry.  
Based on this, and the careful wording by Snape when he and Quirrell were 
talking in the dark forest, Voldemort could still have hope for Snape. If 
Voldemort's gullible enough, he could be made to believe that Snape wanted to 
find the stone for him (Voldemort) and keep Harry alive until he (Snape) could 
kill him himself.  I still think Snape can return to Voldemort, if he has 
something to offer him.  A spy at Hogwarts might still be handy.

On the topic of Snape being present when James and Lily died, if this is true, 
it would add a lot more depth to Snape's hatred of James and his life debt.  If 
he indeed went to help James and Lily he would be angry with himself for not 
saving James life and thus repaying the debt.  On the other hand, if he was 
there as a death eater with Voldemort he could be angry at himself again, for 
one of two reasons:

1) He was too big a coward to stand up to Voldemort in person and it cost the 
Potters their lives.

2) He was forced to stand by and do nothing if he was instructed by Dumbledore 
not to let it be known he was helping the Potters.  It would be hard for to 
live with himself if he had to stand by and watch people die who, even though 
he hated, had done nothing to deserve such a death.

I'm sure there are other reasons in addition to those that all add up to the 
same thing: Snape missed an opportunity to repay his life debt to James and it 
can never be truly repaid.  He can help keep Harry alive, yes, but it's not 
quite the same.

Richelle
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Pip wrote:
""But we *know* Dumbledore is refusing to tell Harry things about 
Snape. He neatly avoids saying 'Snape hates you' in PS/SS [p. 217] 
and he won't tell Harry why he knows Snape no longer supports 
Voldemort. [ GoF p. 524 UK hardback]. Not telling Harry there was 
Someone Else present when his parents were killed fits right in with -
the secrets surrounding Snape.

Yup, 'it wuz Snape'.""



I write:

We were all wondering what Snape's task was, and some think it was to go
back and spy on Voldemort. I think that's not possible anymore, because of
his actions in SS. Don't you think that Voldemort, through Quirrel, would
know about Snape trying to help Harry and not him if Snape was stil a loyal
DE? 

Also, I think there is good canon to give Crouch Jr the "loyal servant" tag
that Voldemort uses for the 3 missing DE in the graveyard. He said that he
had to go free this servant, that the servant made the Triwizard Cup a
portkey, and we know that Crouch Jr was the one that did that and he had to
be freed from his father.


Marc 
(who finally found some Bertie Bott's Every Flavor Beans and is pleasantly
surprised that they taste like what they're called. Just like the book!
Although I haven't tried the bad ones like vomit, earwax, and booger. dirt,
sardine, pepper, and spinach all tasted like the real deal)



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