Fawkes/Phoenixes/Dumbledore/ Gryffindor

redandgoldlion rpquate at earthlink.net
Thu Aug 8 02:13:46 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 42281

   Hello everyone. I've only been here a few days, but I wanted to 
put a theory of mine forth. I'm very sorry if it has been talked 
about to the point you feel like killing me for writing something 
about it *again*, but I couldn't find any other discussions on this 
topic (except 1, I think from Marc). Here it is.
    
    Okay, this theory is *very* unlikely, but I'm trying to support 
it as best I can because I think it's cool, and, for some reason, I 
believe it. I am going to assume, from the title of book 5, that it 
has something to do with phoenixes. I am also going to guess that is 
has to do with Fawkes; he *is* the only phoenix we know, so far at 
least. Now I know that there have been plenty of heir theories 
circulating, but most have been concerning Harry. Some people have 
proposed that Dumbledore is Gryffindor's heir. Even if this isn't 
true, wasn't Dumbledore in Gryffindor? (Sorry, but I don't have the 
books with me now, or I'd look it up.)
     Anyway, I think Dumbledore is an animagus. I don't think he's 
just any old animagus either; I think he is Fawkes. At this point I 
probably have you convinced I'm insane. "Fawkes?" you're thinking. "He
can't* be Fawkes; they were in the same room at the same time!"
 I can't blame you; after all, I haven't given any facts to support 
my theory. 

Here are some points, even if you don't think they support my theory, 
they still make one wonder...:

1. Dumbledore used to be transfiguration teacher, like McGonagall.   
   Wouldn't it make sense for the transfiguration teacher to be able  
   to, well, transfigure himself? I mean, he's the "greatest wizard 
   of the age," so he's obviously capable of being an animagus (esp. 
   if people like Rita Skeeter and those three marauders could). 
2. Now, I am guessing that there is something special about phoenixes.
   What could "the order of phoenix" be. So far the three people we   
   can associate with a phoenix are Harry, Voldemort, and Dumbledore. 
   Pretty important characters, don't you think? Could it have 
   something to do with the innate power of these characters?
3. If Dumbledore is indeed Fawkes, then that would mean Harry and 
   Voldemort have Dumbledore's tail feathers in their wands!(I just 
   thought this was funny, and that I should point it out)
4. Fawkes is red and gold, Gryffindor colors. Now even if neither 
   Harry nor Dumbledore turn out to not to be related to Gryffindor, 
   the red and gold sparks from Harry's wand would then surely tie in 
   with Fawkes? If they, or at least Dumbledore, is related to
   Gryffindor, then I feel he  *should* be something that represents 
   Gryffindor, if he *is* an animagus. (a lion or a phoenix)
5. Also, in the CoS, Dumbledore said he would only *truly* have left 
   the school when none were faithful to him. I know that phoenixes 
   make faithful pets and all, but don't you think it weird that 
   Fawkes was able to find Harry while he is in the Chamber?
6. So far I have left the part out, about how both Dumbledore and 
   Fawkes could be in the same room at one time. What if Dumbledore 
   was using a time-turner? Then one Dumbledore could be taken away, 
   and the other could remain to watch over Hogwarts. 
7. In the GoF, when Harry heard that voice that said, "don't break 
   the connection" it was with the phoenix song, *before* Voldemort's 
   victims started giving him advice. Could some type of shadow-echo-
   thing (how else *could* I put it?) of Dumbledore been 
   communicating with him throuth the shadow-echo-thing of the 
   phoenix, presumably Fawkes, in the graveyard?
8. Phoenixes can also do  there own type of apparation/disapparation.
   I don't think the "you can't apparate *or* disapparate at 
   Hogwarts" rule applies to other magical creatures. Look at Dobby 
   in the hospital wing that night with Harry. This could help to 
   explain how Dumbledore always gets to where he's going so quickly. 
   In the SS when he gets that "urgent owl" from the ministry and 
   soon realizes that he needs to be at Hogwarts, he manages not only
   to get quickly back to Hogwarts, but also to quickly get past all 
   the things protecting the stone. There are numerous other times, 
   too, when he could have done some "apparating,"

-I know one most, if not all of the points that I listed, there is a 
*ton* of evidence that goes against this theory, but then, look at 
all the evidence against Sirius. ;-)
-Cliff1515 helped me with this theory, so, if you like it or hate it, 
it wasn't all me.
 I am really sorry if this message has a ton of mistakes, but I am 
suffering from severe sleep deprivation right now. I know as soon is 
this is posted I'll see all my mistakes and the replies that people 
are so kindly pointing each mistake out in. Please respond because I 
really want to hear everyone's thoughts on this theory. 
  Sorry this post was so long.
    ~redandgoldlion~







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