Is Diary Riddle Voldemort?/Summoning by name

[bluesqueak]

No: HPFGUIDX 42325

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "erisedstraeh2002" <bdmorrp at b...> wrote:

> 
> Help!  This makes me very confused, probably because I'm a newbie, 
> but how can Diary!Riddle be a "different being" than Voldemort!
> Riddle?  I always thought of them as one and the same, since in  
> CoS, Voldemort is only spirit, and has to embody another being in 
> order to  be seen be others.  I thought of Diary!Riddle as a way 
> Voldemort's spirit was able to be seen to others, through the  
> memory of Riddle. When Harry plunges the basilisk fang into the 
> diary and Riddle disappears, I thought that Voldemort's spirit then 
> returned to Albania.
> 
> Plus, while JKR references him as "Riddle" during the encounter 
> with Harry in the Chamber, there is one instance where she 
> writes "*Voldemort* was laughing."  Just a typo?  Or is she trying 
> to  tell us that Riddle's memory really was embodying Voldemort?
> 
> Any clarification would be most appreciated!
> 
> Cheers,
> Phyllis

The sixteen year old Riddle was already calling himself 'Lord 
Voldemort' - so JKR calling him 'Voldemort' is no typo.

My own notion is that 'Tom Riddle' from the Diary is a spell 
construct with exactly the same memories and personality of the 
sixteen year old 'Lord Voldemort'. But it isn't really alive - that's 
why it needs to suck the life force out of Ginny and nearly kills 
her. If you like, it's a sort of 'spell clone'.

Diary Riddle only knows what the sixteen year old Voldemort knew, and 
what he could find out from Ginny. Whether Voldemort can tell what's 
happening to his 'spell clone' when the Diary is activated is 
extremely debateable.

I think that Lucius Malfoy planted the Diary on the orders of the 
REAL Lord Voldemort, hiding in Albania, but that's another theory 
[grin]

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Jean says:
> So, why would muggle borns (i.e. Hermione) be afraid to
> use the name?? 

And Felinia replies:
> the second is a more arcane sense that has hung about many magical 
> and mystical traditions, that to say the name of a being or thing,  
> or to chant or intone it, is to call or invoke the presence of same.

> I think that is what is at work here.

Not that arcane - the proverb "Speak of the devil and he arrives." is 
still much used in Britain.  People quote it semi-jokingly when they 
name a person and that person then unexpectedly turns up.

So Hermione probably wouldn't see the idea of 'summoning' Voldemort 
by speaking his name aloud as a strange or arcane idea.

Pip