The Fateful Night (VERY long)

[muniloopin]

No: HPFGUIDX 42345

jenny from ravenclaw wrote:

> We know that Sirius 
> suspected Lupin of betraying the Potters, so why would it be unusual 
> for him to suspect Hagrid as well?  I suspect Hagrid all the time!  

Interesting idea. why did sirius suspect remus and not peter?
was it because remus is a 'dark creature'? assuming he knew about 
hagrid's mother, he would then suspect hagrid for the same reason.  
but I don't like this (my own) argument! Sirius can't be so 
prejudiced.


> Pettigrew did not need  to use Polyjuice Potion to set Sirius up.  

I agree! But I am convinced that peter must have been at godric's 
hollow. Here is my version of the events of the fateful night:


*Godric's Hollow* 

Voldemort arrives with peter. The potters are revealed, Voldemort 
kills James, asks Lily to stand aside so that he can kill Harry (why? 
my theory is that it is a bit too much for a wizard and/or his wand to 
AK three times in quick sucession...it requires too much effort. 
Hence, since Harry was the primary target and Lily only a secondary 
one, she was asked to stand aside), she refuses and is killed. now 
comes the crucial point: *Voldemort did NOT use his OWN wand to curse 
Harry*. 

By her own admission, JKR made a mistake in the Priory Incantatem 
sequence about the order James and Lily came out but it is very 
unlikely that she made a mistake about the failed AK also..SOMETHING 
should have happened that corresponded to the failed AK. I suspect 
that Voldemort used the wand of the deatheater with him (peter?) to 
try to kill harry. why? same reason as stated above..it is a bit too 
much for a wizard and/or his wand to AK three times in quick 
sucession.

ok, so to continue, the curse back-fires, Voldemort is gone, peter 
takes his own wand and Voldemort's and apparates away. 

*Hogwarts*

The halloween feast is over - Dumbledore comes back to his room and 
glances at the potter-family-clock (of the kind that molly uses to 
mintor her own family) and is horrified to see the hand marked "james" 
go from 'mortal danger' to 'dead'.. before he can fetch his 
Goderic's-Hollow-port-key (or broom or floo-powder ...since he can not 
apparate directly from hogwarts) the hand marked "Lily" moves to 
"Dead" as well but "harry" goes from "mortal danger" to "slightly 
wounded". Dumbledore sends for Snape and Hagrid as he prepares to 
port-key himself to Godric's Hollow. Snape rushes in at this moment 
saying that his dark-mark has been behaving oddly and has finally 
dissapeared. Realising that this means that Voldemort has gone and 
guessing the events that took place at GH, he leaves word for Hagrid 
to use the port-key to collect Harry and to take him by 
MUGGLE-TRANSPORT to privet drive (hence he fixes the time of meeting 
at privet drive to 24 hrs. later) and goes off himself to arrange for 
Harry's safety while at Privet Drive.

*Godric's Hollow*

Hagrid arrives at GH and is about to walk off with Harry when Sirius 
appears with his bike. Realising what had happned, Sirius thinks it 
his duty to look after Harry now and so asks to have him. But when 
Hagrid explains that Dumbledore has some other plans, he goes after 
peter instead and Hagrid, now free from the ncessity of usign muggle 
transport, takes Harry to Wales or where-ever, waits for the 
appropriate time, meanwhile spreading the news of you-know-who's 
flight and then takes Harry to Privet Drive. the only interesting 
points to add here are that
 
(1) after the faking of his own death, peter must have destroyed his 
own wand (since it could provide evidence against him) but kept 
Voldemorts (guessing correctly that it might be useful some day).

(2) the way fudge behaved after sirius's arrest (no trial, ok, it was 
crouch who arranged that but fudge, who was the first at the scene, 
must have given compelling evidence) and at the end of GoF (getting 
crouch jr. kissed), makes me think that fudge does not want Dumbledore 
to exchange information with any one who he thinks might have been in 
the inner circle of voldemort. 

(3) the fact that dumbledore did not show any reaction when told that 
Hagrid had met sirius at GH (remember that Dumbledore knew/tought at 
this point that sirius was the secret-keeper) makes me think that 
Dumbledore never divulges information unless necessary, even to his 
intimates. 

Muniloopin