[HPforGrownups] Re: The "Missing 24-hours" a Time Turner Paradox

R. MacDonald Caliway26 at ns.sympatico.ca
Sun Aug 11 15:45:09 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 42473


  From: finwitch [mailto:finwitch at yahoo.com]
  Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: The "Missing 24-hours" - an alternative take

  That's right -- they would have changed history by NOT going! So um--
  they were supposed to do it. They did it and they had done it before.
  Dumbledore told them to do it (because he knew it was so). Their
  lives simply did a little circle in time.



  [R. MacDonald writes]
  Actually I was thinking more along the lines of: History cannot be
changed, because for them, it has been written.  To really confuse the
explanation, if events happened in an A, B, C, and D pattern, the
time-turner can move you back from C to B, but C would always be C, and D
would always be D.  the sequence of written events cannot be altered.  The
only event that could be changed would be E (the next unwritten event).
  [R. MacDonald]

  From: finwitch [mailto:finwitch at yahoo.com]
  Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: The "Missing 24-hours" - an alternative take

  Well, for your first question:

  a) it's magic and we can't except our physics to apply.
        b) If he had, Voldemort wouldn't have been defeated
        c) Of all the very *bad* things that have happened, we as
  mankind have hopefully learned something.
        d) Changing the course of history would have some terrible
  consequences - as Hermione tells Harry & Ron - though it only becomes
  in form or rules like "You must not be seen".
        e) It's not a matter of ability but of 'right'.
        f) Every choice, act etc. will make a difference. It would no
  longer be the same world - as you can't step into the same river
  twice...


  [R. MacDonald writes]
  I think we are putting way to much thought into this, and it's great IMHO.
But here are some responses to your thoughts.

  A)  Magic is simply Science we haven't yet discovered.  I forget who first
said that but I always liked that quote.  In this case though, it tells us
there has to be some rhyme or reason to the Wizarding world.
  B) Actually I think the sudden arrival would force a confrontation between
Voldamort and Dumbledore.  As apposed to Voldy surviving, he could have been
finished off once and for all.
  C) & D) I'll have to let these ones slip by.
  E) Here it becomes a moral question.  Which is the 'right' thing: letting
the events flow as they happened, where 10 yrs later an orphaned boy must
face the greatest foe the Wizard world has ever dealt with, or the final
defeat of Voldamort and the Happy ever after of the Potter family.
  F) and that point goes back to the previous portion where you can't change
a written past.  Interestingly enough this makes everything here pretty much
moot, but a fun argument none the less.

  Ray



  R. MacDonald
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  Caliway26 at ns.sympatico.ca





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